Swords
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MedTech said:
Hate to say it, but Wilkinson is out of the sword business.
George Wallace said:
I saw "dipped" swords over my years as a QM and they looked like hell. And they were redipped in chrome because of abuse, ie left in scabbard, or someone decided to play pirate after too many beers at the Change of Command Parade. Piss off, if you busted up a C7 or prior FN you' d have been charged.
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Hmmm, I have heard of these people, they do excellent work, In fact they bought out all the Wilkinson dies and are now producing swords of the Wilkinson pattern with a WKC logo. Oh wait I am the rep for WKC here in Canada that is why I heard of them before. I stock these swords and the sword slings. The RCR buy these from me and so do the RCD's(yes a different pattern) but hey I encourage you to keep looking for swords when they are right here in the proper pattern. But hey what do I know.geo said:
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yes I know. I have learned that along time ago but hey if they buy it from the RCR kit shop or whatever they will still be buying it indirectly via me so whatever. Just pointing out a cheaper route that is more direct
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Infantry pattern are in stock of the Wilkinson pattern made in Germany by WKC. They are $1000 plus tax. They include a scabbard of course. Sharkskin grip with wire wrap. Proper 1897 pattern with the Canadian Coat of Arms.
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I don't have an issue with working with you on this if you are interested
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Sword knots are also in stock. White leather gloves will be about 2 weeks
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Hello all,
Thank you for starting this thread, I have always had an interest in swords. Especially those of the Canadian military....
I have been attending a fencing club for a few years now, and would like to make a few comments regarding swordplay.
First of all, never engage in swordplay using live (sharp) blades.
Never engage in contact fencing without a proper fencing mask. The human face is terribly designed when it comes to swordplay, any errant strike near your face will likely end up being guided into your eye by the contours of your face.
A good swordsperson always tries to avoid contact between blades. Aside from being a sign of ignorance, it leads to the bad habit of attacking the opponent's blade, rather than the opponent. The random clashing of steel is poor form, and to be discouraged highly.
I would highly recommend joining a local fencing club. You will learn more than you ever expected. If you carry a sword you should know how to use it, in my opinion. Fencing is also a surprisingly good workout.
Start with a foil, you will pick up good habits and be able to surprise those who skipped directly to sabre. They tend to forget that their sword has a point.
If you are looking for a way to compete with swords, then perhaps you could set up a target cutting competition. See how many targets you can cut through in a certain time, or before your sword gets too dull. Slicing apples that are thrown at you or catching them on the point of your sword is another option.
These are just a few suggestions. I am civilian and have no experience with how the Canadian military handles training with swords. If I am out of line in any way then I apologize.
Best Wishes,
-Rick
Thank you for starting this thread, I have always had an interest in swords. Especially those of the Canadian military....
I have been attending a fencing club for a few years now, and would like to make a few comments regarding swordplay.
First of all, never engage in swordplay using live (sharp) blades.
Never engage in contact fencing without a proper fencing mask. The human face is terribly designed when it comes to swordplay, any errant strike near your face will likely end up being guided into your eye by the contours of your face.
A good swordsperson always tries to avoid contact between blades. Aside from being a sign of ignorance, it leads to the bad habit of attacking the opponent's blade, rather than the opponent. The random clashing of steel is poor form, and to be discouraged highly.
I would highly recommend joining a local fencing club. You will learn more than you ever expected. If you carry a sword you should know how to use it, in my opinion. Fencing is also a surprisingly good workout.
Start with a foil, you will pick up good habits and be able to surprise those who skipped directly to sabre. They tend to forget that their sword has a point.
If you are looking for a way to compete with swords, then perhaps you could set up a target cutting competition. See how many targets you can cut through in a certain time, or before your sword gets too dull. Slicing apples that are thrown at you or catching them on the point of your sword is another option.
These are just a few suggestions. I am civilian and have no experience with how the Canadian military handles training with swords. If I am out of line in any way then I apologize.
Best Wishes,
-Rick
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Hi Rick! Thanks for that informative post! The CF no longer uses the sword as a weapon for its officers, and all of our swords are used purely for ceremonial purposes. I dont know about anyone else but I would rather refrain from dueling with swords with one of my fellow officers. 
But who knows one of these days that tradition might just be revived and all of us officers and gentlemen/women may have to once again defend our honour!
I do wan to look into fencing though. Looks like such a cool sport!
But who knows one of these days that tradition might just be revived and all of us officers and gentlemen/women may have to once again defend our honour! I do wan to look into fencing though. Looks like such a cool sport!
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Army Outfitters said:
Thanks for that Dave, but I'm at a point in my career (YES Reservists have a 'career' too
) where I'm sort of undecided to where it's going to lead me, that's why I'm trying to search for the best sword for the best price (read inexpensive) that I can parade with and not worry too much about the consequences if I decide what I'm going to do. I mean, it would really be counterproductive if I spent that much money on a Wilkonson just to have to switch to another sword.. ie. the Naval Officers Pattern right? ;DBut once again thank you Dave. I do still want those gloves though!
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MedTech,
Regarding training w/ sword, what about the mounted troop the Strathcona's have? I saw the tail end of their performance here in Vancouver at the PNE and, I was impressed. While this is a leaky arguement it goes to show we still have some real live trained-for-more-than-ceremonial sword wavers.
Regarding training w/ sword, what about the mounted troop the Strathcona's have? I saw the tail end of their performance here in Vancouver at the PNE and, I was impressed. While this is a leaky arguement it goes to show we still have some real live trained-for-more-than-ceremonial sword wavers.
