TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

[PuckChaser]

Thread title updated as a replacement has been chosen.

 

[MilEME09]

Thread title updated as a replacement has been chosen.

83 years ago we were hunting german subs, now we are buying them. We are full circle, question remains can they deliver. Id also have concerns about access to spare parts. Germanys own sub fleet was dry docked for a long time because they couldn't get parts. Our own leopard fleet in suffering similarly from German manufacturers. Thats gotta factor into the talks I hope

 

[FJAG]

83 years ago we were hunting german subs, now we are buying them. We are full circle, question remains can they deliver. Id also have concerns about access to spare parts. Germanys own sub fleet was dry docked for a long time because they couldn't get parts. Our own leopard fleet in suffering similarly from German manufacturers. Thats gotta factor into the talks I hope

I expect that this is why 50% of the evaluation weight went for the long-term maintenance, repair and operational support plans over the decades-long lifespan. One can speculate all one wants and even look to other contracts, but at the end of the day we're all just spit balling here about a project that won't crystalize for many months yet and for which all the manufacturing bits and pieces aren't contractually in place yet.

One thing is clear; so far the maintenance issue ts being considered a whole lot more than when the UK unloaded four used Upholder-class on us after the Pakistani's didn't want. Old saying from when I bought my old Triumph Spitfire: "Buy British - Buy second-best."

 

[Nvlgzr]

83 years ago we were hunting german subs, now we are buying them. We are full circle, question remains can they deliver. Id also have concerns about access to spare parts. Germanys own sub fleet was dry docked for a long time because they couldn't get parts. Our own leopard fleet in suffering similarly from German manufacturers. Thats gotta factor into the talks I hope

This was a German navy issue. Italy didn’t have this issue. Note the comment in attached article; German spokesman said,“ cost-saving measures adopted since then have resulted in parts no longer being kept in reserve, “.

All of Germany's submarines are currently down

Service officials hope to make an assessment next week about the extent of the damage.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Eaglelord17]

I expect that this is why 50% of the evaluation weight went for the long-term maintenance, repair and operational support plans over the decades-long lifespan. One can speculate all one wants and even look to other contracts, but at the end of the day we're all just spit balling here about a project that won't crystalize for many months yet and for which all the manufacturing bits and pieces aren't contractually in place yet.

One thing is clear; so far the maintenance issue ts being considered a whole lot more than when the UK unloaded four used Upholder-class on us after the Pakistani's didn't want. Old saying from when I bought my old Triumph Spitfire: "Buy British - Buy second-best."

To be fair to the Victoria/Upholder class much of that was our own fault. If we had just ran the subs as designed instead of trying to ‘Canadianize’ it we would have gotten much more out of them.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Do we know that as a fact, Eaglelord?