Updated Army Service Dress project

[kosb]

I don't know if Operational dress at NDHQ etc. is going to stay. Some have hinted that it was because of a lack of uniform availability. Given than Logistik is scaling back on DEU because the new Army DEU is arriving in 2026, that's probably why. And they couldn't just say Op Dress for Army because the RCAF and RCN would get their noses out of joint that they still had to wear DEU. You'll see 3B return to the NCR when the new ones are issued.

Now, are they comfortable? Remains to be seen. I think we should redesign our DEU from scratch. The concepts Logistik presented at CANSEC the past two years, from what I saw searching the web, are major throwbacks to WWII British Army uniforms. Put the concept for the "women's" pocketed DEU beside a common picture of Queen Elizabeth II (then Princess), and you'll see a damn near identical tunic. I think we need to consider what an independent Canada with its own identity would dress like rather than putting Millennials and Gen Z etc. in historical outfits. I want to see a modernised dress uniform, emphasis on modernised.

They are throwbacks to Canadian Army uniforms of that era so we are re-aligned with the UK, Australia, NZ etc.....there's nothing wrong with sharing the same military heritage and history with former dominions, still our closest allies.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Fair enough, I have spent enough tine in damage school learning about the lessons from the RN in the Falklands.

My point was more about the reality the CAF faces. As a single service, the base standard needs to be applicable to all three elements, not just the light infantry.

I'd love to see an element specific PT test, so that we could capture if people are fit for the gym, or fit for bunker gear, SCBA, and hoses in a real fire.

I think the Force Test was supposed to be that and then add the element specific needs.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I think the Force Test was supposed to be that and then add the element specific needs.

My experience was that most people tended to default to the lowest required standard, and then stayed there.

The troops were always keen to push the standard higher but fat, ambivalent leaders (some of whom didn't participate because: office work) didn't help.

 

[Eaglelord17]

FWIW after the Falklands War, in the British Army, I recall that all the courses and fitness tests got much harder.

Although victorious, epic failures of fitness and endurance, leadership, training, systems and weapons and equipment in various quarters spurred a huge rethink and adjustments across the board in all three services.

The real thing tends to focus you on the most important things like being able to do the basics - but under extraordinarily difficult conditions

So where did the L85 land in terms of lessons learned?

 

[markppcli]

Great points, I for one think the black boots will go well with the new service khaki.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Great points, I for one think the black boots will go well with the new service khaki.

I am also looking forward to the brown Oxfords, brown leather gloves, and the much needed departure from ridiculous gold insignia.

 

[Maxman1]

I wonder if we'll get brown ammo boots again.

 

[markppcli]

I am also looking forward to the brown Oxfords, brown leather gloves, and the much needed departure from ridiculous gold insignia.

The regimental kit shop can’t wait for new collar dogs. The images are all black shoes, so were the demos shown off.