Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Navy_Pete]

I largely agree with you.

I think Canada is waking up to the fact that we need to fund our military. I think savings will be found elsewhere.

I agree, and think it will keep rolling, especially on work already in progress and things needed as part of the projected growth.

The 2nd bit of my comment was more of a bit of cynical experience on the NSS side where the parties needed their 'brand' on it, but for both Harper and Trudeau it was all spin, and the actual contract, roll out etc basically followed the path laid out years before by some pretty smart public servants in DND and PSPC that were the godfathers of the whole NSS.

The shipbuilding aspect of it was almost a bonus after MPs saw the industrial benefits, so while it is a huge pain in the ass, and inefficient from a technical/operational point of view, every penny spent on tracking and explaining the IRBs is what got the NSS approved, sustained and potentially growing, so is a key part of the program success.

On the flip side, the IRBs we would have had as an early F35 partner with Canadian companies producing widgets that everyone used in the 1500+ plane fleet across the globe would have paid for the jets, even if we just parked them, so probably a lost opportunity by the FCO there, as they are focused almost entirely on operational capability, which most MPs don't care about, especially when you start talking about 4th vs 5th gen capabilities.

It will be pretty funny though if one of our peer adversaries develops a new detection methodology that defeats the stealth features, as that really undermines most of the added cost.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Hurry up and vote! If you don't support this you don't care about victims.


Minister says MPs must ‘choose’ victims by fast-tracking lawful access bill

Minister says MPs must ‘choose’ victims by fast-tracking lawful access bill - National | Globalnews.ca

Lawful access has raised privacy concerns, yet Gary Anandasangaree echoed Conservative Vic Toews who said in 2012 people 'can either stand with us or with the child pornographers.'

globalnews.ca

 

[brihard]

Hurry up and vote! If you don't support this you don't care about victims.


Minister says MPs must ‘choose’ victims by fast-tracking lawful access bill

Minister says MPs must ‘choose’ victims by fast-tracking lawful access bill - National | Globalnews.ca

Lawful access has raised privacy concerns, yet Gary Anandasangaree echoed Conservative Vic Toews who said in 2012 people 'can either stand with us or with the child pornographers.'

globalnews.ca

As it pertains to some provisions of Part 1 of the bill, it’s as hamfisted yet substantially correct now as it was when the CPC were saying the same thing in 2012.

 

[Jarnhamar]

As it pertains to some provisions of Part 1 of the bill, it’s as hamfisted yet substantially correct now as it was when the CPC were saying the same thing in 2012.

I remember Harper pushing this stuff back then and not trusting him.

Warrantless access concerns, Metadata expansion and surveillance scope, weak judicial oversight, data retention concerns, concerns effecting speech and internet use (I think anonymous whistle blowing being one).

Also recall backlash against Vic Toews basically framing it as
“You’re either with us or with child pornographers”, which Anandasangaree seems to be channeling with his "choose victims".

 

[Altair]

I remember Harper pushing this stuff back then and not trusting him.

Warrantless access concerns, Metadata expansion and surveillance scope, weak judicial oversight, data retention concerns, concerns effecting speech and internet use (I think anonymous whistle blowing being one).

Also recall backlash against Vic Toews basically framing it as
“You’re either with us or with child pornographers”, which Anandasangaree seems to be channeling with his "choose victims".

Uniparty at work.

I mean, the LPC voted for a PC leader, they, I, am not surprised when we get PC stuff.

 

[Altair]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/safe-agreement-marconi-9.7236074

Montreal-based Marconi Technologies is the first Canadian company to land a contract under the SAFE defence procurement agreement Canada signed with the European Union.

Prime Minister Mark Carney unveiled the news on Monday at the G7 leaders' summit in Évian-les-Bains, France, before a meeting with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President António Costa.

"The first concrete example. There will be many more," Carney said. "We're stronger together and very pleased to continue these discussions."

First Canadian SAFE contract goes to Poland. Not surprised, I think we purchased something from Poland in May.