Topic: Alleged PMO obstruction in SNC Lavalin case

[Brad Sallows]

>Now maybe there is no such thing as “ executive power by custom”

There is plenty of "customary" government in Canada.

The thing about custom is that it is mutable.

[Rocky Mountains]

The thing about custom is that it is mutable.

You'd have to ask the Supreme Court about that one.  Which way is the wind blowing today?  From the left?  I look upon the courts as being as political as the legislators.

[MilEME09]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-blocks-rcmp-on-snc-lavalin-inquiry/

Nothing suspicious here at all.....

[SeaKingTacco]

Well, ain't that convenient....

[milnews.ca]

Indeed ...

[Chris Pook]

The thing about custom is that it is mutable.

As John Bercow and the British Parliament are demonstrating.  They started off playing soccer and now they are playing Aussie Rules.

And as to Cabinet Confidentiality - look into the Prorogation discussion and whether or not special advisors's emails are confidential.

Nothing is what it was anymore.  And I miss it.  Time to retire to the pub.

[Haggis]

Robert Fife breaks down the impact and historical exceptions to Cabinet confidences here

[George Wallace]

Would the Obstruction of Justice in investigating an Obstruction of Justice be considered a DOUBLE NEGATIVE = A POSITIVE......ie. It is positive proof that Justin is guilty?

 

[George Wallace]

I know Justin "experiences 'transparency' differently" than the rest of us Canadians.

[RomeoJuliet]

I know Justin "experiences 'transparency' differently" than the rest of us Canadians.

Writ dropped. HERE COMES GW!


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[Sprinting Thistle]

Would the Obstruction of Justice in investigating an Obstruction of Justice be considered a DOUBLE NEGATIVE = A POSITIVE......ie. It is positive proof that Justin is guilty?

 

In the words a famous and wise philosopher who knows all about scandals, "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

[Haggis]

"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

My brain hurt after reading that.

[Hamish Seggie]

In the words a famous and wise philosopher who knows all about scandals, "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

Who could possibly forget that one..... 

[Brihard]

Just to inform the discussion regarding Cabinet Confidentiality, sinc eI've seen people talking about 'well why don't the RCMP get court orders' and such- the applicable section of law is section 39 of the Canada Evidence Act.

This is one of the most cut and dried sections of any law in Canada, and it doesn't offer a legal or judicial mechanism to get around it, as are found with other similar evidentiary exclusions such as those found in sections 37 or 38 relating to public interest, national security, or diplomatic relations.

There is literally no power whatsoever for any judge of any court at any level to override cabinet confidentiality. Ministers of the Crown and the clerk of the Privy Council have an absolute power to withhold cabinet confidences from disclosure. There is no mechanism anywhere that lets police, courts, or any other public body compel the disclosure of cabinet privileged information.

[ModlrMike]

As the Clerk of the Privy Council reports to the PM, the buck stops with Mr Trudeau.

[milnews.ca]

... There is literally no power whatsoever for any judge of any court at any level to override cabinet confidentiality ...

Unless a new government wants to change the law -- opening themselves to losing the protection of cabinet confidence. 

[Good2Golf]

As the Clerk of the Privy Council reports to the PM, the buck stops with Mr Trudeau.

Particularly evident when one describes the Clerk by one of their three functions - the PM's own Deputy Minister.

Regards
G2G

[Fishbone Jones]

Ho hum, another day in Trudeau's Canukistan. I really can't fathom how anyone could be surprised by this. His whole tenure has been nothing but deceit and dishonesty. From his election promises four years ago, to the latest debacle, with more to come, I'm sure.

[Cloud Cover]

So this appears to be done, because nobody cares anymore. There’s likely no RCMP investigation now. The only people who can pass judgement are the electorate.

[Fishbone Jones]

So this appears to be done, because nobody cares anymore. There’s likely no RCMP investigation now. The only people who can pass judgement are the electorate.

Keep living the dream. Many are just stupid and only vote the latest lie or sound bite. I don't have confidence in the electorate, especially Sanctuary City and east of Ontario. Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised on the 22nd, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Colin P]

So this appears to be done, because nobody cares anymore. There’s likely no RCMP investigation now. The only people who can pass judgement are the electorate.

To whom the Liberals are throwing monetary promises to in vast quantities.

[remember]

With due respect, Liberals are good in juggling of our tax returns where their rhetoric sounds as if we are given enormous monies. I get taxed $ 650 every month. So that is $ 8000 in taxes per year. I get a total $ 2,500 in tax returns and other benefits. I am not whining because of my expected pensions. I also do not care if I get taxed 40% for overtime. I saved $300,000. I will buy a seniors apartment when I retire. No complaints because the Conservatives did the same.