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Offline Jarnhamar

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Survival kits project
« on: July 25, 2020, 18:00:54 »
Doing some at home projects with kids and one of them turned into survival kits.

Mostly for fun but wanted them to be usable too. We’re going to test them out in the woods for a few days.

It's a work in progress with a few items left to be added. Figured I’d throw them on here and get some constructive criticism.

From right to left - survival kit to strap on a motorcycle (break down to follow), Mini Survival Kit- basic, Mini Survival Kit- Plus and a Large Mess Tin Survival Kit.






Basic Mini-Survival-Kit



Fire
6x storm matches
Fire strike sparker
Tinder quick fire tabs

Light

NAV
Button Compass

Signalling
Signal mirror

Water
Whirl Pak (little 1-liter water bags for pruification, similar to the ones we get in ration packs)
6x water tabs (1 tab per liter)

Misc
Survival razor
Readyman lockpic set
Snare wire



Mini-Survival-Kit Plus
Just a bit larger container than the previous to cram a bit more in.



Fire
Mini-bic lighter
8x storm matches
Fire strike sparker
8x Tinder quick fire tabs
[ordering a relighting birthday candle]

Light
Microlight
Britestrike APALS doubles as a light (https://www.brite-strike.com/product/apals-all-purpose-adhesive-light-strips/)

NAV
Button Compass

Signalling
SOL Signal mirror
Brite-Strike APALS
Mini-whistle
Glow tape

Water
Whirl Pak water bag
10x water tabs

First aid
Bandaid
Steristrips

Misc
Survival razor
RSK MK5 knife
Needle, fish hooks and handcuff key under duct tape stuck to outside
Snare wire



Large Mess Tin Survival Kit
It’s a little larger and beefy than I like. I’m tinkering with what to cut out to cram most of it in a smaller sized mess tin. 



Fire
2x Bic lighters
Magnesium block with ferro rod and striker
Tinder quick-fire tabs
Storm Matches

Light
Petzl E+Lite & 3 sets of CR2032 batteries (may switch to an AAA headlamp)
Glowstick
Brite Strike APALS

NAV
Sunnto compass - downsizing to an orienteering compass, probably Suunto A10
Button compass

Signalling

Adventure light VIP- Green (3 sets of batteries total) can double as flash light
SOL signal mirror
Whistle (old school CAF issue)
10’ orange survey tape
(glowstick on cord as a backup)
APALS in strobe mode
Glow tape


Water
2x Whirl paks –
40x water purification tablets – 10days worth with average activity.
Can boil water in the mess tin as a backup

Shelter
Commando wire saw
Paracord 30'
Brass snare wire
Military trip wire
Solar blanket
Hacksaw blade wrapped in tape

First aid
Bandaid
Steristrips
Alcohol swap
4x gravol (missing some pills)
4x immodium
4x advil
Skin glue

Misc
mini fishing kit
Lockpick set
Handcuff key
Gerber Ghost Strike - changing it to Esse's Izula-B knife
Swiss Army Knife (to be added)




So far looking at:
adding more Gorilla clear and blaze orange duct tape to the lids
possibly add a solar blanket to the outside of the MSK+
« Last Edit: July 25, 2020, 18:09:45 by Jarnhamar »
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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2020, 23:10:06 »

This image is the winners of the reality tv show alone. They got caught manipulating how things go in season 2. But it seems fairly accurate.

You did a really good job with these kits!

My little nitpicks,
Fish nets/ Fishing is a big part of it.
Having a bow/ hunting, snares, traps and building shelter seem to be the road to success.
A lot of them know how to identify wild edibles. Something I have been working on.
I would include a gill net (going by what I've seen, I haven't used one).

As for the lockpick set. They are illegal in BC ( maybe other provinces) as they consider them burglary tools. You can get around this by getting an beginner locksmiths license. Just something to think about.

InMyOpinion, Unless you go through the time of learning how to lock pick with them, you are better off with just a rake, a tension wrench and a couple bump keys.  Pick up dollar store padlocks to build confidence/ skills.


I'm sure it doesn't have to be said, but take the time to go over each item and its use with the kids.
It's useless if they can't use it when the time comes.

Oh, ask if the MIR will give you some antibiotics, tell them you are planning to do a remote expedition or something and don't want to die in the wilderness.
If they refuse, you can pick up fish antibiotics from the pet store. Read the label, you can get the exact same thing as human antibiotics.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2020, 23:19:35 by materialpigeonfibre »

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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2020, 23:13:35 »
First Aid
Fire
Signal
Shelter
Water and Food

In that order!  What you bring depends heavily on the climate, geography and season.

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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2020, 07:36:05 »
Quote from: materialpigeonfibre
If they refuse, you can pick up fish antibiotics from the pet store. Read the label, you can get the exact same thing as human antibiotics.
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Antibiotics obtained from a pet store are not tested, not regulated and not intended for human consumption. There is no evidence that they are the "exact" same thing as human antibiotics.
As a health care professional I strongly recommend against this practice.
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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 07:50:58 »
If you have any critical equipment (vehicles, generators etc) make sure that your emergency kits have the tools you need for user maintenance.  It would be embarrassing to be that guy - you know, bragging to your wife about how ready you are for everything, and then calling her from the side of the road because you don't have the wrench to loosen the lug nuts to change your flat tire...
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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2020, 11:49:30 »
[quote author=materialpigeonfibre
If they refuse, you can pick up fish antibiotics from the pet store. Read the label, you can get the exact same thing as human antibiotics.

Antibiotics obtained from a pet store are not tested, not regulated and not intended for human consumption. There is no evidence that they are the "exact" same thing as human antibiotics.
As a health care professional I strongly recommend against this practice.
RT

To add to that, many are not in appropriate human dosages and are often combination products.  If I were developing something, I tend to do a threat assessment and go with where it's intended to be used, as problem diseases vary regionally, as do the drugs of choice.  They also tend to take up space. 

Oh, and you know, COVID 19 and Dr Donald Trump caused a great deal of mortality/morbidity issues with people eating their fish pills.

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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2020, 17:11:41 »
Quote from: materialpigeonfibre
Fish nets/ Fishing is a big part of it.
I need to add some line for sure. I'd sooner eat tree bark than fish though
Quote from: materialpigeonfibre
InMyOpinion, Unless you go through the time of learning how to lock pick with them, you are better off with just a rake, a tension wrench and a couple bump keys.  Pick up dollar store padlocks to build confidence/ skills.

I worked with some guys who introduced me to lock picking, I'm not doing too bad with it.
Agree about learning to use stuff. I always get a kick out of guys who carry items like a magnesium fire starter and not sure what to do with it.



If you have any critical equipment (vehicles, generators etc) make sure that your emergency kits have the tools you need for user maintenance.  It would be embarrassing to be that guy - you know, bragging to your wife about how ready you are for everything, and then calling her from the side of the road because you don't have the wrench to loosen the lug nuts to change your flat tire...

Getting fancy and forgetting the basics, great point. That would be really embarrassing and hard to live down I'm sure.
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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2020, 05:29:25 »
Have you thought about some hand warmers in the big kit?
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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2020, 10:44:28 »
Good call Weinie regarding the chemical hand/feet warmers. I would add a Styptic Pencil to stem bleeding from minor cuts. Depending on the circumstance, "skin glue" may not be effective.

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Re: Survival kits project
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2020, 14:40:41 »
Have you thought about some hand warmers in the big kit?

I would have never thought of that but having something to warm your hands up quickly so you can build a fire seems pretty smart.



First Aid
Fire
Signal
Shelter
Water and Food

In that order!  What you bring depends heavily on the climate, geography and season.

Are you able to comment on what you'd normally carry?
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