Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Eaglelord17]

I think you and I have different ideas of the right direction... But hey if this is the right way for you, hell, lets see where this goes. Its not like we have choice anyway... Miller High Life ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2060407685099483425

Not surprising we are in a recession. Considering our trade partner 10x our size who is 71% of our exports and 58% of our imports has decided to have a trade war with us.

On top of that we have basically been in a recession for a decade, the only thing stopping the formal declaration of that was importing so much people that it was driving up the economy in spite of everything. Now that the massive immigration has been cut back we aren’t able to pretend that isn’t the case anymore.

 

[Altair]

Not surprising we are in a recession. Considering our trade partner 10x our size who is 71% of our exports and 58% of our imports has decided to have a trade war with us.

On top of that we have basically been in a recession for a decade, the only thing stopping the formal declaration of that was importing so much people that it was driving up the economy in spite of everything. Now that the massive immigration has been cut back we aren’t able to pretend that isn’t the case anymore.

The understated part is how everyone wanted lower immigration but immigration was fueling a lot of economic growth.

Which is why i think a lot of people dont seem to care about being in recession. The economy isn't growing but the population isn't either so it cushions the blow.

 

[Altair]

That doesn't prove your point though. It proves one case became an international media symbol while the other didn't. Public awareness and public safety aren't the same thing.

We can't prevent 3 year olds from drowning in the Ageaen sea; we can mitigate the amount of Canadians victimized by people in the country illegally.

Optics matter.

 

[Maxman1]

I dont think any canadian politician wants a Alan Kurdi situation on home soil outside a hospital.

Was he the kid whose father turned out to be a people smuggler and was never trying to come to Canada?

 

[Eaglelord17]

The understated part is how everyone wanted lower immigration but immigration was fueling a lot of economic growth.

Which is why i think a lot of people dont seem to care about being in recession. The economy isn't growing but the population isn't either so it cushions the blow.

If a recession resets housing bringing it back to affordable levels, I would consider it a good thing.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Optics matter.

Optics matter for perception, not truth. As we both know Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

 

[Altair]

If a recession resets housing bringing it back to affordable levels, I would consider it a good thing.

I hope the housing market resets as well, but we shall need to see.

I remember reading about a weird scenario we might find yourselves in where we have job losses and the unemployment rate goes down, simply due to there being less jobs overall due to there being less people in Canada.

Considering we have never had a shrinking population in the history of Canada, until now, we are in uncharted territory here. We should be looking at Japan and Germany about how to handle this, and start to revise out expectations on how the economy functions.

 

[Altair]

Optics matter for perception, not truth. As we both know Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

The optics of trying to arrest and deport someone at a hospital a la ICE is going to be way worse than whatever the truth is, especially if there are kids involved.

Not saying that it shouldn't be addressed, of course it should, I'm just not surprised CBSA and the feds are not being heavy handed here.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The optics of trying to arrest and deport someone at a hospital a la ICE is going to be way worse than whatever the truth is, especially if there are kids involved.

Not saying that it shouldn't be addressed, of course it should, I'm just not surprised CBSA and the feds are not being heavy handed here.

Yeah, I think you're 100% right on all accounts.

I'd like to see these people flagged when they visit a hospital and CBSA follow up with them afterwards and deport them.

That's going to still upset people who will argue it's cruel and unusual punishment because it will cause them not to seek medical treatment. At that point I'm more concerned about the people being turned into paste on the highway or shot in the back and left for dead.

And $722,000,000 may be a rounding error to some Canadians, not me.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Isn't that the guy who got court martialed and kicked out of the CAF as an officer cadet at CMR?

I dunno is he ? This is what google tells me...

Have some substantiation or just a drive by smear ?

 

[dapaterson]

I dunno is he ? This is what google tells me...

Have some substantiation or just a drive by smear ?

Food Professor’s Pyramid of Shame – Frank Magazine

frankmag.ca

 

[Halifax Tar]

Food Professor’s Pyramid of Shame – Frank Magazine

frankmag.ca

Just to be sure and so I know were your bar is, its Frank Magazine ? So this is a credible source to be used now ?

Also a quote from the article:

He also points out that he received an honourable discharge from the Canadian Forces.

Hardly kicked out...

 

[Jarnhamar]

Hardly kicked out...

My guess is a 5F release.

 

[Halifax Tar]

My guess is a 5F release.

Unlike some here I don't know the story, at all, so I wont make guesses.

But I will say when I was a young man I did stupid things too. Hell I am 47 and I still do stupid things.

And I am unsure how any of this relates to his comments on the current Canadian political situation.

 

[dapaterson]

Unlike some here I don't know the story, at all, so I wont make guesses.

But I will say when I was a young man I did stupid things too. Hell I am 47 and I still do stupid things.

And I am unsure how any of this relates to his comments on the current Canadian political situation.

A young man who leveraged a position of responsibility within a military college to get junior personnel to enter into a pyramid scheme is not a paragon of virtue to be emulated. When he declines t odiscuss it, one may infer certain things about him and his character.

 

[brihard]

I dunno is he ? This is what google tells me...

Have some substantiation or just a drive by smear ?

It’s him. He was a CMR student, charged under 130 NDA and kicked out right at the end for running a pyramid scheme. As he had completed all his degree requirements, he succesfully sued for conferral of his degree, though he was still punted from CAF.

https://canlii.ca/t/1nmbg

 

[Czech_pivo]

As Carney does many things I like, he erodes a notable portion of his "big tent" Liberal support.

He probably knew the real world back when he campaigned or maybe not.

That’s a true statement, question is this, is it being offset by an equal, smaller or larger number of red Tories or centre Tories?
Time will tell.

 

[Halifax Tar]

It’s him. He was a CMR student, charged under 130 NDA and kicked out right at the end for running a pyramid scheme. As he had completed all his degree requirements, he succesfully sued for conferral of his degree, though he was still punted from CAF.

https://canlii.ca/t/1nmbg

Again honorably discharged. Lets make sure we use the right words, some words have connotations.

A young man who leveraged a position of responsibility within a military college to get junior personnel to enter into a pyramid scheme is not a paragon of virtue to be emulated. When he declines t odiscuss it, one may infer certain things about him and his character.

Just so you are tracking he is 56 now. Again from your own Frank article, which I am glad we accepting as a credible source now BTW:

“It was a very difficult time in my life,” he says. Even after he got his degree, it took him a few years to get his life back on track. He was $40K in the hole from the court fight, and he struggled with depression.

He calls the pyramid scheme an “embarrassing mistake… I thought everything was legal. Once I realized what was going on, it was too late.”

He says he wasn’t the mastermind, it was run by people outside the college. Over 100 students were involved, he says, but he was “scapegoated.”

“They made me a case because I was influential, what can I say? The commandant at the time picked me as an example. The other officer cadets graduated no problem.”

And this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ?

 

[dapaterson]

Again honorably discharged. Lets make sure we use the right words, some words have connotations.



Just so you are tracking he is 56 now. Again from your own Frank article, which I am glad we accepting as a credible source now BTW:



And this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ?

I am saying that someone convicted should show some bare minimum of remorse.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I am saying that someone convicted should show some bare minimum of remorse.

Do you know he hasn't ? Did you read the portion I quoted from the article you provided ?

And again this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ? Or do you just not like him ?