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Morneau resigning as minister of finance, leaving his seat, and running to become head of the OECD.
Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
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God help us if Morneau has been the only one standing in the way of the Liberals spending ways. It's hard to believe that Mark Carney would be supportive of that model either
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So what if it turns out that he was the only adult in cabinet? Then what?
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Then we hope that the Cons select a leader who can beat him on the 23rd, and that the Bloc actually stands up and raises a vote of non-confidence in Parliament in the fall...then maybe some adults will take over and pickup the pieces.
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The Bloc and CPC lack the numbers to bring down the Liberals in a vote of no confidence if the NDP prop them up. However, if enough disgruntled Liberals skip such a vote, the government may fall. Unfortunately the only party financially able to campaign effectively right now is the Liberal Party.ModlrMike said:
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Haggis said:
Are the Conservatives short on money?
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The CPC is doing better than the other parties, Scheer hurt their fundraising. With a no leader as of the 24th and many new members they should be able to raise enough funds, certainly enough to go toe to toe with the Liberals
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FJAG said:The wrong guy left.
Yes, he was the wrong guy for the left :nod:
You guys are celebrating a bit early.
Ok, Morneau’s gone. Note that of the whole cabinet he had by far the most real- world business experience. He’s the sort of self-made millionaire the Conservatives tend to court and drool over. He knows economics. He was also helping to restrain some of the more fiscally profligate urges in the LPC. Now he will not longer be there to curb spending to any extent.
Meanwhile the NDP are broke. They can’t afford an election. The power they wield is being able to single handedly prop up the LPC minority government. The LPC need only keep them on side, and they don’t have to worry what the CPC or Bloc do or say. They can still command a majority of votes.
And how are they likely to court that support from the NDP? Further spending on social programs. The sort of stuff that Morneau was probably the most credible and capable person in cabinet to keep a lid on.
So, by all means cheer on his departure. But the current government likely isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Not a chance Trudeau will resign; he doesn’t have to. Sure, Morneau’s gone, but this may be a case of be careful what you wish for...
Ok, Morneau’s gone. Note that of the whole cabinet he had by far the most real- world business experience. He’s the sort of self-made millionaire the Conservatives tend to court and drool over. He knows economics. He was also helping to restrain some of the more fiscally profligate urges in the LPC. Now he will not longer be there to curb spending to any extent.
Meanwhile the NDP are broke. They can’t afford an election. The power they wield is being able to single handedly prop up the LPC minority government. The LPC need only keep them on side, and they don’t have to worry what the CPC or Bloc do or say. They can still command a majority of votes.
And how are they likely to court that support from the NDP? Further spending on social programs. The sort of stuff that Morneau was probably the most credible and capable person in cabinet to keep a lid on.
So, by all means cheer on his departure. But the current government likely isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Not a chance Trudeau will resign; he doesn’t have to. Sure, Morneau’s gone, but this may be a case of be careful what you wish for...
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What, exactly, is wrong with spending on social programs?
In my view overtaxing to support social programs is the issue. Making sure everybody pays their fair share is an issue. Making sure there is no wastage or fraudulent use of the programs are issues. But I personally have no issue with social program spending. Perhaps it’s that we don’t trust government to manage social programs, even excellent social programs, wisely with a view to helping up? Was Bill Morneau going to do something about that?
In my view overtaxing to support social programs is the issue. Making sure everybody pays their fair share is an issue. Making sure there is no wastage or fraudulent use of the programs are issues. But I personally have no issue with social program spending. Perhaps it’s that we don’t trust government to manage social programs, even excellent social programs, wisely with a view to helping up? Was Bill Morneau going to do something about that?
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