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I'd hope for shown the door.
Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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The non apology DWAN wide email really landed flat.Yeah, diversity, that's it....
I have no fundamental issue with people getting an opportunity to apply for a job that they found out about because of who they know, but from the ethics commissionaire report she essentially pushed him to be hired for something he was woefully unqualified for, and got let go due to performance issues (and somehow landed in the PCO).
Given the completely unexperienced PMs that are getting hired and thrown at complex projects, and doing okay, I can't imagine how bad you would have to shit the bed to get let go in the public service, so that's not great.
Especially when there are a lot of qualified people from pretty diverse backgrounds that would have ticked those same boxes, they just didn't know the DM, it's pretty frustrating. Already hard enough to hire people that it's frustrating that someone high enough was able to push that through, knowing all the hoops I have to jump through to hire people with years of experience.
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Not an HR SME.
But, read this,
Canadian federal public service, the Executive (EX) Group consists of senior leaders (EX-01 to EX-05) responsible for managing major programs, policies, and resources.
Job Security and Termination: Executives in the core public administration have more limited job security than unionized, employees.
www.canada.ca
I recall that was certainly the case in the muni PS.
But, read this,
Canadian federal public service, the Executive (EX) Group consists of senior leaders (EX-01 to EX-05) responsible for managing major programs, policies, and resources.
Job Security and Termination: Executives in the core public administration have more limited job security than unionized, employees.
Guide on the selection of executives for retention or lay-off - Canada.ca
Find information to help manage the career transition of executives.
I recall that was certainly the case in the muni PS.
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I am not familiar with GoC hiring protocol, but in my company, if i know the person, I cant have any part in the hiring process for them, interviews, selection etc. I guess the GoC has no such rules?
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She is a DM-2 or DM-3, not a mere EX...
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Interesting. Wasn't on my list of possible places he'd be going in 2026. I've been wondering when any sort of Central/South America trip might be in order.
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Is one worse than the other or both equal to you? (PM and opposition leader)
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Different types of not great.
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Probably didn't phrase it right, meant more finding out about job openings from someone you know and forwarding an application on through them, or letting them know about a posting for the advertised jobs.
There are a lot of things to prevent biases and favoritism, but at the same time it's also a lot of small communities where everyone knows everyone so that's not really feasible. There is a separate HR person involved in all HR screening, and also panels doing the hiring so there is always someone who doesn't know anyone in it looking to make sure people are qualified and there is a reasonable assessment they are competent and why they are the most qualified candidate.
A DM telling someone about an opening and them applying for it is one thing. A DM repeatedly pressuring the hiring managers to review their file, ask about their hiring etc is a lot of pressure on the hiring manager, regardless of whether or not they know the person, especially when they aren't qualified. Not sure if it would be better or worse in a small deparment, compared to DND, where you might be a lot less removed from the DM (and maybe more affected if they weren't happy).
Does seem pretty bush league though, seems like it will be a massive jump up for her in terms of responsibility. I'd kind of expect a DM to deliberately be very hands off if they were to pass on info about a job opening to a friend to actively avoid any kind of hint of favouratism.
I'm not sure why they brought in someone new to the department right now anyway, seems like a mistake IMHO, but that, and $4 will get you a cup of coffee. It's too bad Pat Finn retired in 2019; between the changes they wanted to make in the procurement models, the amount of complex projects on the go and the growth needed, he would have been extremely well informed to lead that, but after 40 years of service I'm sure he was happy to ride out into the sunset after making sure NSS was rolling along (he was one of the key people that put together the briefings to Cabinet that got it approved, along with Mr. Tom Ring and Mr. Ian Mack).
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Heather MacHamas will be the next floor crosser.
This Lewis guy is a Cracker Jack.
This Lewis guy is a Cracker Jack.
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Wow just wow thats one way to chase someone off
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She’ll cross to the Green Party, actually.
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well I don’t think Pierre will take her.
And if she stays with Lewis to be treated like that, then there needs to be an intervention.
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I have a feeling that the LPC is already lighting up her phone.
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And i doubt many of her constituents would blame her after being publicly nuzzled like that
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A traditional NDP stance would approve of more pipelines. It’s the more modern stance which does not.
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