Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

Bottom line, the USA GDP and overall economy is growing much faster and rapidly than ours.

USA is also declining. Their GDP growth was 1.6, well below forecasts.

Ours is contracting. or "technical recession". Remember when people here wanted to pretend it wasn't happening?

We imported more gold, recession. It happens.

Ohhh, and those "increase jobs" in May/june? Mostly temp summer jobs and FIFA temp jobs.

Jobs are jobs.

 

[brihard]

Bottom line, the USA GDP and overall economy is growing much faster and rapidly than ours.

Ours is contracting. or "technical recession". Remember when people here wanted to pretend it wasn't happening?

Ohhh, and those "increase jobs" in May/june? Mostly temp summer jobs and FIFA temp jobs.

Way to completely not reply to any of what I actually said.

 

[Altair]

Way to completely not reply to any of what I actually said.

Talking points are not great debate points.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Canada is actively shrinking.

You can talk about homes and crimes, fair beans. Migration? You want us to shrink harder?

We could stand to lose some dead weight, certainly.

 

[Altair]

We could stand to lose some dead weight, certainly.

The economy would not appreciate such a dramatic shift. Isn't it better to take a cautious approach to see how things pan out rather than just throwing the economy into a lurch?

 

[Jarnhamar]

The economy would not appreciate such a dramatic shift. Isn't it better to take a cautious approach to see how things pan out rather than just throwing the economy into a lurch?

I'd say it depends how productive the dead weight is and what they're contributing back into the economy.

 

[Altair]

I'd say it depends how productive the dead weight is and what they're contributing back into the economy.

Something we cannot know if we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Canada is actively shrinking, the housing market is flat (pity those who need the equity boost) the economy is already showing strain at this approach.

Going more aggressive at this will definately throw Canada into an actual recession, which I'm sure those supporting shrinking faster will be all so understanding of...

Bottom line, the USA GDP and overall economy is growing much faster and rapidly than ours.

Ours is contracting. or "technical recession". Remember when people here wanted to pretend it wasn't happening?

Ohhh, and those "increase jobs" in May/june? Mostly temp summer jobs and FIFA temp jobs.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Something we cannot know if we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Canada is actively shrinking, the housing market is flat (pity those who need the equity boost) the economy is already showing strain at this approach.

Going more aggressive at this will definately throw Canada into an actual recession, which I'm sure those supporting shrinking faster will be all so understanding of...

That assumes every reduction is equally harmful. My point is that if someone is consistently taking more from Canada's economy than they're contributing, reducing those numbers isn't the same as losing productive workers.

The question isn't more or fewer people, it's whether the people we're bringing in are creating a net benefit or a net cost.

 

[Altair]

That assumes every reduction is equally harmful. My point is that if someone is consistently taking more from Canada's economy than they're contributing, reducing those numbers isn't the same as losing productive workers.

The question isn't more or fewer people, it's whether the people we're bringing in are creating a net benefit or a net cost.

I kind of feel like thats getting into the minutia a little too much. What, are we going to set up productivity tribunals? What's the cost of checking the individual productivity of millions of people?

The Government sets up headlines numbers for permanent immigrants and temporary and lets the chips fall where they may.

Currently, we are shrinking. Good enough.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

The question isn't more or fewer people, it's whether the people we're bringing in are creating a net benefit or a net cost.

Perhaps we should also be testing the productivity and willingnness to work of those that are born in Canada.

As an immigrant myself, I am very aware of the amount of courage and initiative it takes to move to another country in search of a better life. On the face of it, that requires a much greater will to succeed than perhaps those that were fortunate enough to be born in one of the best countries in the world. At the very least, immigrants are perhaps more likely to appreciate Canada as they have a comparator.