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Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

KevinB said:
Chevy has the Z71 version, the off road package sort of like the big brother of the Z72 Colorado that became the ISV base.

Admittedly part of me like the idea of the Hummer chassis - mainly as we still have 10’s of thousands of them down here. It’s a 2.5t ton chassis as opposed to the lighter chassis on the Chevy and Ford models. So basically a 5/4 ton capacity in awful terrain (the MLVW was a 5 ton chassis but downrated for off road) So MRT’s, Ambulance and CP’s aren’t such an issue.
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Jaysus guys, get the build lists for the "old" 3/4 t, update drive train and sell world wide! ( after the CF gets a hockey sock full)
 
ueo said:
Jaysus guys, get the build lists for the "old" 3/4 t, update drive train and sell world wide! ( after the CF gets a hockey sock full)
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Not sure what you are referring to about the 3/4t, unless you mean the OLD Dodge M37 1951 era truck - which was too big for the Jeep Role, and isn't big enough for a 5/4t role.
 
ueo said:
Jaysus guys, get the build lists for the "old" 3/4 t, update drive train and sell world wide! ( after the CF gets a hockey sock full)
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If it was that simple, it would have been done.

I suspect there is a lot of nostalgia tinting people's perceptions of vehicles they used 30+ years ago.

There is zero reason a modern truck can't be modified to meet the needs of the CAF. There is zero requirement to dredge up old designs from the 70s to make a truck today.
 
CBH99 said:
Most TAPV's have been N/S I'm the reserves for years?? (I'm assuming N/S means Non-Servicable?)
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It's somewhere between 50% to 100% at most places. No parts. That and reservists have always been bottom priority at the overworked maintenance yards.
 
Maxman1 said:
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The driver was actually on CG with me this summer.
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They should not be allowed on highways, full stop. Their handling is fucking atrocious, the rock like a boat and still don't have the ABS activated so they go sideways immediately when you have to apply a heat brake. It's a goddamned blessing no civvies or troops have been killed by these things on the highway.
 
PrairieFella said:
It's somewhere between 50% to 100% at most places. No parts. That and reservists have always been bottom priority at the overworked maintenance yards.
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Like I said same at my unit. Between TAPV and ASCV we’ve over doubled the armoured vehicle fleet… with 0 increase to the maintenance troop numbers.
 
markppcli said:
Like I said same at my unit. Between TAPV and ASCV we’ve over doubled the armoured vehicle fleet… with 0 increase to the maintenance troop numbers.
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Under the heading of the more things change from the department of deja vu .
In the 80's The Garries in Winnipeg we're equipped with the Lynx the vehicles were delivered to CFB Winnipeg and the regiment quickly trained not a just troop's worth of drivers and Crew Commanders as well as RadOps. but a squadron's worth and a bit if some of the stories were true .
However they never got a dime to train either technicians or diesel mechanics.
As a result well you can guess what happened.
 
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PrairieFella said:
They should not be allowed on highways, full stop. Their handling is fucking atrocious, the rock like a boat and still don't have the ABS activated so they go sideways immediately when you have to apply a heat brake. It's a goddamned blessing no civvies or troops have been killed by these things on the highway.
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Outsider here. I know the Army has struggled to find the right role for the TAPV but, in terms of design, Where did it go wrong? Did we choose an inherently bad platform, or take a decent platform dink around with it too much? I understand the roof-mounted spare and crane adds upper level weight but, in the overall design, does it make that much of a difference?
 
ueo said:
Jaysus guys, get the build lists for the "old" 3/4 t, update drive train and sell world wide! ( after the CF gets a hockey sock full)
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It kind has been done

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Furniture said:
There is zero requirement to dredge up old designs from the 70s to make a truck today.
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Most modern vehicles are garbage, reliability in vehicles peaked around the end of the 20th century. Regulations, marketing and accountants have driven the reliability factor into the ground.

You want diesels that don't have EGR valves, fuel solenoids, use DPF. You want body panels that are simple to produce. Simple transmissions, even if they are automatic. Make sure your axles and suspension components are beefy. Modern braking systems are ok.
 
lenaitch said:
Outsider here. I know the Army has struggled to find the right role for the TAPV but, in terms of design, Where did it go wrong? Did we choose an inherently bad platform, or take a decent platform dink around with it too much? I understand the roof-mounted spare and crane adds upper level weight but, in the overall design, does it make that much of a difference?
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As usual.... a perfectly viable piece of kit Canadianized.
 
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