Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

[MilEME09]

Add a zero to the numbers, and add a 6x6 5 to 7 ton Zetro to the mix and it should be good.

Do this and retire the internationals, then our main logistics fleets will all be the same chassis, with 80% parts commonality. The amount saved in maintenance, training and logistics would be huge.

My issue with the LVM trucks, is they are so tall, I get why they are but as a result you cant handle side bins for example on the MRT, or amb.

 

[Maxman1]

Do this and retire the internationals, then our main logistics fleets will all be the same chassis, with 80% parts commonality. The amount saved in maintenance, training and logistics would be huge.

My issue with the LVM trucks, is they are so tall, I get why they are but as a result you cant handle side bins for example on the MRT, or amb.

The 4xr Zetro is at least a 2½ ton. A good replacement for the MLVW, but not the LSVW.

 

[MilEME09]

The 4xr Zetro is at least a 2½ ton. A good replacement for the MLVW, but not the LSVW.

Everything has gone up in size, the 8x8 zetro is basically a super heavy not an hl replacement. The cargo LUVs will be more close to the LS size.

 

[Kirkhill]

Everything has gone up in size, the 8x8 zetro is basically a super heavy not an hl replacement. The cargo LUVs will be more close to the LS size.

So the LUVs will make better Ambulances, CPs and MRTs than the Zetros?

 

[MilEME09]

So the LUVs will make better Ambulances, CPs and MRTs than the Zetros?

Absolutely, they decided against side bins on the zetros because if you put them on, they would be six feet off the ground, and require a ladder to access. Not ideal

 

[suffolkowner]

Do this and retire the internationals, then our main logistics fleets will all be the same chassis, with 80% parts commonality. The amount saved in maintenance, training and logistics would be huge.

My issue with the LVM trucks, is they are so tall, I get why they are but as a result you cant handle side bins for example on the MRT, or amb.

Can we do this or will the MSVS replacement require a competition?

 

[MilEME09]

Can we do this or will the MSVS replacement require a competition?

Probably require a competition but we could probably argue a sole source out of it

 

[MilEME09]

So interesting, thanks probably to budget, a project to replace the MSVS milcot has started, since they apparently hit end of life in 2023. One would think the smart choice right now would be sole source add on the LVM for the medium platform for a common fleet

 

[PrairieFella]

So interesting, thanks probably to budget, a project to replace the MSVS milcot has started, since they apparently hit end of life in 2023. One would think the smart choice right now would be sole source add on the LVM for the medium platform for a common fleet

Best we can do is another orphan fleet that cant be deployed lol

 

[suffolkowner]

Best we can do is another orphan fleet that cant be deployed lol

add Oshkosh for HIMARS and a SK wheeled howitzer

 

[PrairieFella]

add Oshkosh for HIMARS and a SK wheeled howitzer

Please, no more lol.

Real talk though the LVM light cargo would be perfect for the reserves. Something ML size is all we need. Give me a cargo, a flatbed or LHS for ammo and fuel and a fitter/CP/workshop variant. Good to go for our needs.

 

[suffolkowner]

Please, no more lol.

Real talk though the LVM light cargo would be perfect for the reserves. Something ML size is all we need. Give me a cargo, a flatbed or LHS for ammo and fuel and a fitter/CP/workshop variant. Good to go for our needs.

whats the payload comparison?

 

[PrairieFella]

whats the payload comparison?

Im not sure which Zetros variant the LVM L is based on but from what Ive found on the Zetros tech specs, 11.6T on the 4x4 chassis.

Zetros

special.mercedes-benz-trucks.com

 

[suffolkowner]

Im not sure which Zetros variant the LVM L is based on but from what Ive found on the Zetros tech specs, 11.6T on the 4x4 chassis.

Zetros

special.mercedes-benz-trucks.com

I heard they were to have the same axles?
9 and 13 tonne for the 4x4?
2x9 and 2x13 for the 8x8?

 

[PrairieFella]

I heard they were to have the same axles?
9 and 13 tonne for the 4x4?
2x9 and 2x13 for the 8x8?

This is outside the realm of my understanding to be honest lol. I know it can carry a surprising amiunt of load haha.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

On a 4x4 chassis, you don't really need 11.6 tons of load carrying, normally your cargo's bulk out before weighing out. I also suspect that 11.6 ton figure is for 10% or less of it's operational cycle and may have other restrictions as well.

 

[suffolkowner]

On a 4x4 chassis, you don't really need 11.6 tons of load carrying, normally your cargo's bulk out before weighing out. I also suspect that 11.6 ton figure is for 10% or less of it's operational cycle and may have other restrictions as well.

9+13=22 tonnes GVW
22-11.5=10.5 tonnes tare?
a heavy truck empty but not that out of bounds from what i ran
we'd run 7.5t up front and 9t axles in the back. One could never get enough weight on the front axle to justify a bigger one and there was no point in running more than a 9t axle because the MTO didnt allow that weight either plus add in that the axles had to be 101" apart to be considered independent for their full weight allowance

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Mind you it's not just axles, but your frame, body mounts, spring hangers, suspension components and accompanying strain on the drivetrain. I recall when we first got the MLVW, we went down a 4x4 trail and had the front spring mounts shear off on a trail that I would mark as moderate.