KevinB
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I like the ability to be flexible -- if doing urban or confined space work - then it makes sense to strip the heavier weapons into an overwatch or support role -- but in some terrain depending on your enemy - you may need the "support" portion to be able to maneuver and assault.Some miscellaneous thoughts.
First, overall I think I prefer the concept of an assault element and a support element. Although the number of assault elements to support elements can differ I like the concept both for Section and Platoon.
I 100% agree but I am not sure the CA actually fights the LAV like an IFV - it has been planned to fight as an IFV, and has fought as both an IFV and an APC, but I get the impression that most combat commanders in the CA these days do not believe it is a IFV in the form like the Bradley in a CAB is used as an IFV. But I agree that the 25mm cannon is an awfully impressive support element - which means that for dismounted forces not supported by the LAV are at a major disadvantage in terms of support fire.Second, to a degree I believe that infantry sections who don’t fight from a IFV need to look different from those that do fight from an IFV. Most obviously in the fact that for IFV based infantry, the IFV is the support element.
I would prefer not to replace a light belt fed with a heavier belt fed in the defensive - but I would totally add a heavier belt fed to what would otherwise be a rifleman fireteam. The same goes for Anti-armor weapons, GMG's etc.Third, I agree in the arms room locker concept. This is one reason I prefer the assault and support elements vs all elements being the same. With an assault and support element construct your support element has more people allocated to carry either multiples of the same weapons and more ammo or different complementary weapons to cause compounding dilemmas for the En. However the arms room concept also allows the assault elements to draw on heavier crew served weapons if they are going static.
I tend to believe that a light section/squad needs to be around 12-14 personnel at this point in time, simply to be able to retain mobility with all the needed systems at that level.Fourth, the size of sections and the number of weapons and systems needs to be carefully considered in terms of mass, specialization, and sustainment. A section of 8 personnel with an 84mm, 2 MGs, a DMR, and a UAS and an IC and 2IC will compared to a WW2 German section have less ability to move the EIS and ammo for a proper fire plan for each wpn. The German section of 8 carried one MG42 with tripod and ammo.
IC Carbine with Stand alone 40mm
2 I/C Carbine with Stand Alone 40mm
Signaller (carrying something like a 167 set)
DMR
C-UAS Op (handheld for dismounted, as well as Raytheon vehicle mounted Mini Missile system - which could be man packed if needed)
UAS Op
AMG*
AMG
MANPAD Op
Anti-Armor Op
That is 10 by itself, and realistically you will need a teammate for both the MANPAD and AA Op's just for reloads -- if you "cheap" out you could opt for the Javelin LWCLU - and fire both Javelin and Stinger with one firing post - but there you would likely want the third ammo bearer anyway.
That comes to 12 without a medic or interpreter.
*AMG, Assault Machine Gun - the best options to me are in 5.56mm the KAC LAMG STONER KAC ASSAULT MACHINE GUN - Knight's Armamemt
I've shot it a "bit"

or in 7.62mm the MG Technologies LMG-A-GP which is basically a Mk48 with some actual intelligence in the design.

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I ran across the belt-fed machine gun mentioned in a recent NDIA poster in the RD USA booth. Designed under a Cooperative Research And Development Agreement ...
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I wish they both offered a charging handle like the HK MG4, as well as the selector options - but alas nothing is perfect is it.
Not sure if you where at NTRR last week for ISOF, but I believe that 5.56mm is going to be here to stay for a while, the have been a lot of ammunition improvements in the past year that I think can be taken advantage of.I agree on an AMG vs a GPMG with an arms room concept, with the ammunition I don't see NATO (and with it Canada making any big moves out of the 5.56 and 7.62 combination); especially with all the difficulties plaguing the American programs for the M7 and the 338 Norma GPMG. But there are things from the program we definitely can make use of: the lighter weight casing and link where at a minimum we can achieve commonality between our AMG and GPMG in terms of ammunition logistics (plus I'm tired of having to teach the C9 as a 600m effective weapon system when the beaten zones past 300-400m say otherwise).
I see zero point in 6.8 Big Stupid Army, nor the .338Norma GPMG. Both to me are concepts that brief well to the uninformed but fall flat on their face when hit with the realties of life. Quite honestly SOCOM trying take II on the .338LM just makes me cringe as the round doesn't take a payload, and the belt weight makes it so it is a vehicular mounted system anyway - and there are numbers options for vehicle systems that exist.
Agreed - though I have a bit more a robust Section/Squad above - but I would be fine with adding a M4 Carl G, as well as 3-4 AT-4 of either ASM or HEAT warheads situation depending.A light infantry locker being: 1-2 AMGs, 1-2 GPMGs, 2-4 lightweight disposable anti-structure munitions, 2-4 lightweight disposable ATGMs, 1 sharpshooter rifle and 2 grenade launchers (preferably stand alone) would give one hell of a multi-tool that can actually be tailored to task, let alone 3 sections with the same locker before even getting to the pl wpn det and/or coy FSG.
I think that even LI needs to embrace some sort of vehicle mobility enablers at this point -- even if they are a "mule" type UGV - outside of very complex terrain - and even then there will need to be some sort of mobility assistance - be it cargo UAS, or Helicopter etc.Assault/rifle group and gun group have always existed, just the inexperience and/or laziness of the establishment saw the over exaggeration of balanced assault groups and frontals. It should be the standard practice, but there also is utility in having the section organized in a balanced manner (especially in the context of a point section / security element) but drilled into shaking out into a aslt/rifle and gun gp when fixing to launch an assault (which many NCOs here have done, myself included).
I would add that the mechanized sect would have the benefit of the IFV also being able to carry a portion of their locker should the sect/pl need to reorg to a new task before hitting a DP or moving to a rearward harbour area. (I see it more so carrying the optional/additional ATGMs the sect could dismount with).