Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[ArmyRick]

Carney=evil theme

Whoever said Carney is evil? Not me. I want all political leaders ACCOUNTABLE and TRANSPARENT and we don't have that at all right now. Not In Carney, not in Ford.

The rest of the stuff you posted, I can't look at the link you posted so i will follow up later to see if there is anything to it. Funny CBC and/or CTV hasn't put this up on a giant billboard if there is any truth to it.

 

[Good2Golf]

Whoever said Carney is evil? Not me. I want all political leaders ACCOUNTABLE and TRANSPARENT and we don't have that at all right now. Not In Carney, not in Ford.

Didn’t say you said Carney was evil? If you personally want to associate with the depth of that sentiment, you can, if not, then you can do that to. My statement was to the overall theme of the opposition to Carney contained in this thread of late.

I agree with you about accountability and transparency. I have stated my concern about Carney’s prior closeness to China, as late as 2023 standing a few people down from Xi in the Bejing Palace, and I remain concerned with such close and personal ties.

The rest of the stuff you posted, I can't look at the link you posted so i will follow up later to see if there is anything to it. Funny CBC and/or CTV hasn't put this up on a giant billboard if there is any truth to it.

I independently fact checked the information presented, and am comfortable with its presentation, though I encourage anyone to check the link analysis themselves, that’s just a good practice where critical thought is concerned.

 

[brihard]

Meanwhile, NOT a good look ....

Veterans Affairs ending Commissionaires’ $330M federal contracting right

OTTAWA — The largest private sector employer of veterans in Canada is calling on the Liberal government to rescind its decision to end a federal contracting entitlement which grants first dibs on federal security guard contracts. The Canadian Corps of ...

nanaimonewsnow.com

What do the Commissionaires’ veteran hiring stats look like these days? Are they still sufficient that they could possibly justify that right of first refusal under the pretext of helping veterans? I’m skeptical that it’s still the case.

 

[daftandbarmy]

What do the Commissionaires’ veteran hiring stats look like these days? Are they still sufficient that they could possibly justify that right of first refusal under the pretext of helping veterans? I’m skeptical that it’s still the case.

I understand they're finding it difficult to hire enough vets who are interested in being Commissionaires... AI summary FYI:

The Commissionaires are struggling to recruit veterans due to a shrinking veteran population, low wage levels, and stiff competition for skilled,, young, or newly released personnel. Despite hiring roughly 1,000 veterans annually, they have failed to meet a 60% veteran-worked hours benchmark for federal contracts since 2013-2014.

Key Factors Affecting Recruitment:

• Declining Demographic: The overall population of veterans eligible for work is decreasing, and the existing veteran workforce at the Commissionaires is aging.
• Low Wage Rates: Government-prescribed wages are often too low to attract veterans, who may find better pay in other sectors.
• Alternative Employment: Younger veterans (35-44) with families often look for higher-paying positions that immediately utilize their high-level skills, leading to competition for their services.
• Geographic Gaps: Veterans are dispersed across the country, making it difficult to fill vacancies in specific regions, which forces the organization to hire non-veterans.
• Changing Needs: Modern veterans have different career aspirations compared to older generations, requiring the Commissionaires to rethink their "one-size-fits-all" approach.

Impact on Operations:

• Contractual Misses: The organization has not met the mandatory 60% veteran employment target for federal contracts since 2013–2014.
• Loss of Privileges: Due to these challenges, the Federal Government is ending the Commissionaires' $330M federal contract (Right of First Refusal) for guarding services.
• Non-Veteran Hiring: To keep up with demand, they have been forced to hire family members and other civilians, reducing the overall percentage of veterans in their workforce to around 42%.

To address these challenges, the Commissionaires are trying to adapt by offering more tailored and flexible roles, particularly for those looking for career growth rather than just temporary or part-time work.

 

[Brad Sallows]

The NDP need to do some soul searching because at current pace, they wont last much longer. They were born as a party to fight for the middle class

I'd say "working class", and by that I mean people who worked long hours, mostly with their hands, often outdoors and in unsafe conditions. People who had pretty much nothing to pass on as an estate unless they died holding deeded property they hadn't already handed over to kids.

The middle class is anathema to socialists. People who stand on their own, enjoying the goods of fortune in moderation, don't need bosses and have no interest in revolutions. They have a solid stake in status quo.

 

[ytz]

I wonder if our data looks like this....

Feminism from the 60s. Followed by austerity, wealth concentration and globalization of the 80s and 90s.

 

[MilEME09]

I wonder if our data looks like this....

Feminism from the 60s. Followed by austerity, wealth concentration and globalization of the 80s and 90s.

I would say that data needs to be compared to median house hold income and average home price as well. In the 70s and 80s it was possible to buy a house on a single income. Today? Good luck unless you make over 250k a year.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Whoever said Carney is evil?

Carney is evil. Evil, evil, EEEEEVIL! (evil).

 

[MilEME09]

Ndp losing another MP, likely a other pick up for the liberals come the by election

Alexandre Boulerice to resign as MP, leave NDP to run provincially

Quebec MP Alexandre Boulerice is expected to resign from Parliament and leave the federal NDP so he can run provincially for Québec Solidaire.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Brad Sallows]

I wonder if our data looks like this....

Feminism from the 60s. Followed by austerity, wealth concentration and globalization of the 80s and 90s.

There are two things going on there, marriage and homeownership.

I find the following AI-assisted search summary highly amusing:

"The median age at first marriage in the United States is 31.4 years for men and 30.8 years for women as of 2024. This reflects a trend of people marrying later in life compared to previous decades."

[Add: another reason this is amusing: my parents got into their first home by buying a lot in a semi-rural suburb and building a house on it. (Literally. My father had worked a couple of summers for a contractor and thus was his own general contractor and did all the framing and a bunch of other stuff.) He managed to beat "30" by being "29". This was achievable in ... 1972.

"Not in house before 30" isn't the recent tragedy some people think it is.]

 

[Jarnhamar]

Poilievre isn't bad. He's the impetus for a lot of what Carney and the LPC have done. He should be applauded for his work, although bias wont let some here do that, his face is too punchable apparently.

The game changed and this is a new version he is not great at. He needs to step aside and let the party find its new leader.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying about Poilievre but disagree with the timing.

Any candidate the CPC pick to replace Poilievre will instantly start dealing with accusations of being:
-Pro-Trump
-Maple MAGA
-Anti Abortion

and really anything else the LPC can think of to build up the resentment.

Carney already manipulated the system to get a majority government. It's better to let Poilievre mark time in position and pick a new CPC leader closer to the election date. It will give the CPC a better chance. Poilievre is in a good spot to keep hitting the LPC in their weak spot; ethics and transparency.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying about Poilievre but disagree with the timing.

Any candidate the CPC pick to replace Poilievre will instantly start dealing with accusations of being:
-Pro-Trump
-Maple MAGA
-Anti Abortion

and really anything else the LPC can think of to build up the resentment.

Carney already manipulated the system to get a majority government. It's better to let Poilievre mark time in position and pick a new CPC leader closer to the election date. It will give the CPC a better chance. Poilievre is in a good spot to keep hitting the LPC in their weak spot; ethics and transparency.

A lot of PP being accused of being:

• Pro Trump
• Maple Maga
• Anti Abortion

Is the result of his inability to give a clear concise answer or response in opposition to those accusations. And that comes from his fear of losing the hard right minority.

PP is giving off huge loser vibes. Its easy to tell he's hurt, and I get why. A year ago he was looking at 200 seat majority. Now he cant keep his own MPs loyalty. That has to be a tough pill to swallow. I can empathize him.

I suppose there is a train of thought that believes when Trump takes beating in the mid terms the LPC will begin to lose the boogie man that won them the last election, and then PP will start to rebound... I mean that's defiantly a possibility. Couple that with what I expect will be a pretty empty delivery bucket and no real improvement for the lives of Canadians.

From where I sit it looks like Canada doesn't want him to be PM, and it looks like the CPC wont get the nod unless he is replaced with someone better.

I tell you what election night 2029, you come on out to my camp, we will eat like kings, drink like sailors, laugh like jokers and see how this all turned out.

 

[ArmyRick]

My question is for 2029 or possibly sooner, if PM Carney does not deliver tangible results and the people get fed up again (a la Trudeau) with the new Liberal messiah, what rabbit do they think they can pull out of the hat? What crisis can they manufacture? How do they plan on begging people for another chance?

In my opinion, there was no Liberal savior even Carney without President Trump and all the craziness with it.

 

[Czech_pivo]

A lot of PP being accused of being:

• Pro Trump
• Maple Maga
• Anti Abortion

Is the result of his inability to give a clear concise answer or response in opposition to those accusations. And that comes from his fear of losing the hard right minority.

PP is giving off huge loser vibes. Its easy to tell he's hurt, and I get why. A year ago he was looking at 200 seat majority. Now he cant keep his own MPs loyalty. That has to be a tough pill to swallow. I can empathize him.

I suppose there is a train of thought that believes when Trump takes beating in the mid terms the LPC will begin to lose the boogie man that won them the last election, and then PP will start to rebound... I mean that's defiantly a possibility. Couple that with what I expect will be a pretty empty delivery bucket and no real improvement for the lives of Canadians.

From where I sit it looks like Canada doesn't want him to be PM, and it looks like the CPC wont get the nod unless he is replaced with someone better.

I tell you what election night 2029, you come on out to my camp, we will eat like kings, drink like sailors, laugh like jokers and see how this all turned out.

I would add 1 more thing into the mix - the loss of his seat that he held for quite a long while. Now he no longer resides in the same riding that he represents, he's an 'absentee MP' in essence, lives in another place that he supposedly represents.

 

[Jarnhamar]

A lot of PP being accused of being:

• Pro Trump
• Maple Maga
• Anti Abortion

Is the result of his inability to give a clear concise answer or response in opposition to those accusations. And that comes from his fear of losing the hard right minority.

Possible.

I remember when Trump started his tirades Poilievre took a muted, lets not get too excited, approach which people hated. They preferred Carneys Elbows Up, we're going to fight the American invaders every inch
centimeter of ground posturing.

That posturing quickly turned into "I wore a red tie for you Mr President". Carney is behaving the exactly way Poilievre signaled he would behave, which contributed to him losing the election.

What a sucker.

Now he cant keep his own MPs loyalty.

That depends if you think loyalty is an attribute that can be bought. If so then yes, Poilievre couldn't keep his MPs loyal; they were bought out.

when Trump takes beating in the mid terms the LPC will begin to lose the boogie man that won them the last election, and then PP will start to rebound.

I don't think so. Poilievres brand is just too damaged. Trump will be a boogeyman until he's out of office. Even afterwards I suspect the LPC will do their best to paint any new contender as Trump/MAGA[/b].

I tell you what election night 2029, you come on out to my camp, we will eat like kings, drink like sailors, laugh like jokers and see how this all turned out.

If our cities aren't underwater because of climate change you got yourself a deal.

 

[MilEME09]

Is Pierre tone deaf of his own messaging? He just accused Carney of showboating announcements and then he does this.

Cause nothing says showboating like plastering your slogan on the side of a tanker

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048026349181313179

 

[HavokFour]

Is Pierre tone deaf of his own messaging? He just accused Carney of showboating announcements and then he does this.

Cause nothing says showboating like plastering your slogan on the side of a tanker

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048026349181313179

Welcome back, King of the slogans.

Anyone have any idea of how deep of a hole doing that would create?

 

[Jarnhamar]

Anyone have any idea of how deep of a hole doing that would create?

No idea.

If the government charged 0 tax on gas would you donate 7.5¢ to 25¢ per litre anyways out of principle?

 

[YZT580]

Welcome back, King of the slogans.

Anyone have any idea of how deep of a hole doing that would create?

I can identify 90 billion to balance the loss (HSR) Seriously though, Carney has a difficult choice. He can keep spending or he can cut costs to enable us to spend. Which one would do the most for the most Canadians and buy him the most votes at the same time? His predecessor hasn't left him a lot of room to maneuver.

 

[HavokFour]

No idea.

If the government charged 0 tax on gas would you donate 7.5 to 25¢ per litre anyways out of principle?

Do you believe we'd see that full 25¢ at the pump? Because I certainly didn't really see that temporary 10¢ reflected there.