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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #125 on: May 23, 2014, 22:41:35 »
From my girlfriend, a Sig O:

1) French braids are fine; tuck excessive length back up underneath the braid and pin it back (although this reg may have changed, you may be able to wear the braid down);
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When in doubt, ask your CoC. Or someone in your OR. There's bound to be a female around or someone in the know.

Braids are fine down until the length reaches the top of your armpits.  Then your hair must be totally tucked up under, cut, or bunned.  I am amazed at the amount of females I've had to correct who simply "fold" their braid at the point where it reaches their armpits to try to "hide excess length" - that's not acceptable and contravenes dress regs.

Tucking the entire hanging-braided portion of a french braid under the "well" created at the base of your head (ie:  so that no braid is hanging at all) is acceptable.

When in doubt - ask your MWO/SSM/RSM - it is their actual job to know and enforce this stuff.  For officers, it is the Adjutant (if your female officer friend is not the Adjt, then her thoughts on dress don't matter much as it's not her job to know).  The adjutant is also who I go to see when I have an officer who doesn't feel they have to consider "polite advice" from myself.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2014, 09:13:00 »
Braids are fine down until the length reaches the top of your armpits.  Then your hair must be totally tucked up under, cut, or bunned.  I am amazed at the amount of females I've had to correct who simply "fold" their braid at the point where it reaches their armpits to try to "hide excess length" - that's not acceptable and contravenes dress regs.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #127 on: May 24, 2014, 09:16:57 »
I swear, braiding is some special, magical skill passed from mother to daughter, which utterly confuse the male of the human species for time eternal. My girlfriend is a braider extraordinaire. I can barely manage a proper ponytail when doing my 3 year old's hair after bath time...
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #128 on: May 24, 2014, 10:43:48 »
The sailor in me read that, and I said to myself "What about a back splice?".   ;)



Well the troops got to shave my head bald back in December (cost them 10 grand for United Way though - at which they succeeded in raising dammit) but when it grows out I might try the splice, :blotto:
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #129 on: May 24, 2014, 11:01:15 »
Make sure you get the rum to go with your splice Vern.  ;D
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #130 on: January 27, 2015, 16:33:22 »
I am trying not to repeat questions, but I have been searching this inquiry and am unable to find a sufficient answer. I leave for BMQ on February 14th. I am female and have very short hair. (Shaved slightly in the back, and longer on the top.) Are they more lenient on females when it comes to short hair? I do have bangs, but I can pin them to the side if needed.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #131 on: January 27, 2015, 16:54:44 »
Are they more lenient on females when it comes to short hair?

As long as your hair is within regulation you will be fine.  This thread should have all the answers about what is regulation hair: https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,13144.0.html
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #132 on: January 27, 2015, 17:22:44 »
This thread should have all the answers about what is regulation hair: https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,13144.0.html

Six more pages,

Hair Regulations - Female Members of CF 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,35327.0.html


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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2015, 12:24:39 »
I'm in basic right now with medium length hair. A little too short to make a bun, a little too long to leave down.  I was told I had to get my wispies under control too(dang short temple curlies coming out to play in the rain). Prior to this hair, I always had similar to the attached photos(a touch shorter though)

Will that be an appropriate hair cut to go back to? At longest it's chin length in the front and the back is just cut tight.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2015, 12:41:37 »
I would say make sure the length of the sides closer to the length of the back.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2015, 12:56:28 »
As long as you pull your hair away from your face and behind your ears there shouldn't be a problem.  I've seen this style quite a bit.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #136 on: January 29, 2015, 13:29:39 »
Wonderful. I'll shorten the front and be sure to keep it tucked!

Thanks to you both.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #137 on: February 05, 2015, 17:51:33 »
I am trying not to repeat questions, but I have been searching this inquiry and am unable to find a sufficient answer. I leave for BMQ on February 14th. I am female and have very short hair. (Shaved slightly in the back, and longer on the top.) Are they more lenient on females when it comes to short hair? I do have bangs, but I can pin them to the side if needed.
Hey I also leave for bmq on the 14th where do you fly out of? I haven't sworn in yet I do that on the 12th.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #138 on: April 06, 2016, 12:08:46 »
Hi all!

Let me start by saying sorry if this has already been answered. I did do a search and nothing came up.

My ladies with curly hair who have been to bmq or are there right now. Im on the fence about bringing a hair straightener. Not to straighten my hair every day. Ain't nobody got time for that. But I have baby hairs all around my face and with them being curly it makes them extremely annoying to deal with so I usually give them a quick straighten and then slick them back. Should I bring my straightener or just load up on extra product? What has everyone else's experience been? Thanks in advance!

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #139 on: April 06, 2016, 12:24:06 »
I'll start by saying that I cut my hair short before basic. Pixie cut short.
I did not want to have to deal with hair at all.
You WILL not have time to straighten any hair during the week. And obviously not the weeks you are in the field.
Your best bet is product. Glop that stuff on and turn your hair into a helmet. Or cut it short. It's only hair, it will grow back.
Depending on how long the little baby hairs are, not one may say anything.
Here are the official dress regs: www.cfc.forces.gc.ca/255/251/A-DH-265-000-AG-001.pdf
Page 2-2-2 starts talking about hair. Page 2-2-16 to 2-2-18 has pictures of acceptable female styles. They don't specifically mention wispy hairs however.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #140 on: April 06, 2016, 12:27:18 »
Hi all!

Let me start by saying sorry if this has already been answered. I did do a search and nothing came up.

My ladies with curly hair who have been to bmq or are there right now. Im on the fence about bringing a hair straightener. Not to straighten my hair every day. Ain't nobody got time for that. But I have baby hairs all around my face and with them being curly it makes them extremely annoying to deal with so I usually give them a quick straighten and then slick them back. Should I bring my straightener or just load up on extra product? What has everyone else's experience been? Thanks in advance!

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #141 on: April 06, 2016, 13:38:27 »
Thanks everyone for getting back so quickly! Will definitely NOT bring the straightener then and just load up on hair gel. Can't say I really wanted to deal with packing it anyways so kind of a relief.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #142 on: July 29, 2017, 17:29:01 »
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I've scanned all six pages and while my question may have been answered, the majority of links for images are now broken.
I head out for my BMOQ at the end of August, and while my hair is long enough to put into a bun, I'm debating on cutting it shorter so I don't have to worry about putting it up.
Is a short style like this acceptable? I'm assuming I would still have to pull the front part back with bobby pins.


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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #143 on: July 29, 2017, 18:02:26 »
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I've scanned all six pages and while my question may have been answered, the majority of links for images are now broken.
I head out for my BMOQ at the end of August, and while my hair is long enough to put into a bun, I'm debating on cutting it shorter so I don't have to worry about putting it up.
Is a short style like this acceptable? I'm assuming I would still have to pull the front part back with bobby pins.



You'll see many variations of that style. (I currently have an angled bob like that.) However, note that the front of that specific style photo is too long, it's below/touching the collar. You'll have to pin it up/back somehow. However, if you choose an angled bob and the longest portion is chin length, you should be fine. (Edit to add: Apologies, as you mentioned that initially in your post.)

Cons to the style: IMO, it's actually a bit of a nuisance. It's an in-between length and with drill (such as remove head-dress/replace head-dress), with wind blowing when in formation outside, field stuff, etc it can be a nuisance. Short enough so it doesn't get in your face and/or eyes at any point, or long enough so that you can tie it all back in place is the easiest for course.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #144 on: July 29, 2017, 18:21:41 »
You'll see many variations of that style. (I currently have an angled bob like that.) However, note that the front of that specific style photo is too long, it's below/touching the collar. You'll have to pin it up/back somehow. However, if you choose an angled bob and the longest portion is chin length, you should be fine. (Edit to add: Apologies, as you mentioned that initially in your post.)

Cons to the style: IMO, it's actually a bit of a nuisance. It's an in-between length and with drill (such as remove head-dress/replace head-dress), with wind blowing when in formation outside, field stuff, etc it can be a nuisance. Short enough so it doesn't get in your face and/or eyes at any point, or long enough so that you can tie it all back in place is the easiest for course.

Thanks for the response! I'll leave my hair as is for now and maybe cut my hair into an angled bob after course.

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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #145 on: April 09, 2019, 13:47:31 »
The CAF has just amended the dress regulations for all CAF members who express their gender as female

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CANFORGEN 048/19 - CMP 030/19 011939Z APR 19

CHANGES TO CAF DRESS INSTRUCTIONS SPECIFIC TO WOMENS SERVICE DRESS

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REF: A.MINUTES OF THE NDCDC 02/18 10 DEC 18 (http://HTTP://CMP-CPM.MIL.CA/EN/HONOURS-HISTORY/PUBLICATIONS-HISTORY/NATIONAL-DEFENCE-CLOTHING-DRESS-COMMITTEE.PAGE )
 B. A-AD-265-000/AG-001 CAF DRESS INSTRUCTIONS

1. THE NDCDC MET FOR ITS SEMI ANNUAL MEETING ON 10 DEC 18. THE COMMITTEE TACKLED A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT AFFECT CAF MEMBERS WHO EXPRESS THEIR GENDER AS WOMEN AND AS A RESULT A NUMBER OF AMDTS TO REF B WERE PROPOSED TO AFC. THE FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THOSE APPROVED CHANGES FOR CAF MEMBER WHO EXPRESS THEIR GENDER AS WOMEN

a. HAIRSTYLES FOR LONG HAIR. IN ADDITION TO CURRENTLY APPROVED HAIRSTYLES, IT WILL NOW BE PERMITTED TO WEAR SINGLE PONY TAILS IN ALL ORDERS OF DRESS OTHER THAN CEREMONIAL OR FULL DRESS (ALL NUMBER ONE ORDER OF DRESS). THE PONY TAIL WILL FOLLOW THE EXISTING REGULATIONS REGARDING SINGLE BRAIDS (LENGTH NOT TO EXCEED BELOW THE TOP OF THE ARMPIT, TO BE GATHERED IN THE CENTRE BACK OF THE HEAD). OPERATIONAL, HEALTH AND SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS WILL REMAIN PARAMOUNT AND LOCAL COMMANDERS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RESTRICT THE WEARING OF LONG HAIRSTYLES AS APPLICABLE FOR SUCH REASONS

b. NYLONS. THE WEARING OF NYLONS WILL BE OPTIONAL. AS OPTIONAL ITEMS, MEMBERS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO PURCHASE THEM. THE REGULATIONS REGARDING NYLONS REMAIN UNCHANGED (PLAIN PATTERN SKIN-TONED)

c. FOOTWEAR TO BE WORN WITH THE CAF SKIRT AND PANTS. OPTIONAL FOOTWEAR WILL BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT HEEL HEIGHT IS NOT TO EXCEED 5 CM IN HEIGHT THUS ALLOWING THE ADDITION OF FLATS AND ALL HEIGHTS IN BETWEEN, BUT NOT BALLERINA SLIPPER STYLES

2. REF B WILL BE AMENDED IN DUE COURSE. QUESTIONS CONCERNING THESE CHANGES OR FURTHER CLARIFICATION TO THE AMDTS IN REF B CAN BE SUBMITTED TO DHH 3 AT (PLUS SIGN)DHH3(AT SIGN)CMP DHH(AT SIGN) OTTAWA-HULL OR ADDRESSED THORUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OR AS OUTLINED IN REF B
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #146 on: April 09, 2019, 16:41:17 »
The CAF has just amended the dress regulations for all CAF members who express their gender as female

Excellent. Now all I need to do is wait for the inevitable "unisex dress instructions" CANFORGEN. Hopefully it won't be that long.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #147 on: April 09, 2019, 18:20:31 »
No start date specified?  So tomorrow??
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #148 on: April 09, 2019, 19:57:43 »
No start date specified?  So tomorrow??

Yup, seems to be. ‘Reads that meeting was late last year, they’ve probably spent the interim fine-tuning some details until it was released today with a caveat that ‘B’ will be/can be amended as needed...and where to direct inquiries.

I was given the go-ahead for tomorrow by my CoC. I’ll probably still switch it up between a bun and braid on occasion. But I have to admit, I’m in no way disappointed by now having the option of doing a simple pony-tail.

I’ve already heard a few grumblings and I really feel these little adjustments are necessary. Ultimately, (I’d like to think that) the military is realizing that relaxed dress standards isn’t reflective of the quality of their military. (Beards, hair, boots, etc.) Many other developed nation’s militaries have proven this to be so. CAF needs to grow/evolve if it wants its numbers to grow also.
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Re: CF Hair Regulations - Female styles
« Reply #149 on: April 09, 2019, 20:09:11 »
I passed this on to my section today, good to go for tomorrow if they want.

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