Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

 

[ArmyRick]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

No, I did not hack @Altair account and post this, it really is him.

 

[brihard]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

Depends on whether a plurality of Canadians would be likely to look at that as the best bet to navigate these turbulent times.

Anyone sliding over to NDP will likely not advantage themselves.

I think if we did see defections threaten PM Carney’s majority, that’s where we would see an election called, easily articulated with the need to put the question of government mandate back to the voters to confirm. If polling is remotely to be believed, the LPC have a lot of leeway right now were an election to happen imminently.

It would be a campaign that would line up the various trade and business deals that have been signed, and the significant adjustment in posture on defence and Canada’s place in the world. They would say “here’s what we’ve concretely been doing, and we’re starting to see results. Let’s please be allowed to continue carrying on with this.”

I don’t believe the CPC will be enthusiastic to force an election any time soon even should LPC lose their majority. Poilievre probably rightly fears for his political future should he lose another election. Some massive swing would need to happen for that to not be the result, even if LPC were held to a minority by the NDP picking themselves raggedly back up off the ground.

 

[HavokFour]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

He explained why he was stepping down. I don't think it's going to move the needle too much, not with the population currently being very supportive of various national projects and that includes oil and gas.

Guilbeault says Canada 'backsliding' on climate action as he resigns as MP​

 

[ArmyRick]

When will the Liberals lose melanie Joly?

Brian Liley drops some reality on Minister Joly's fantasies

 

[Czech_pivo]

When will the Liberals lose melanie Joly?

Brian Liley drops some reality on Minister Joly's fantasies

I think, sadly, that she sticks around longer. She needs to ‘redeem’ herself under Carney in order to wipe the stink from the Trudeau years and to better position yourself for whatever comes next.

 

[Good2Golf]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

Sure. Guilbeault was holding the government together…

 

[ytz]

Yeah. Not sure about putting Guilbault in the same league as Freeland. And does he really have that much sway in Quebec?

 

[Altair]

Sorry folks, I shouldn't drunk post.

 

[Good2Golf]

Sorry folks, I shouldn't drunk post.

Were you out drinking with Guilbeault?

 

[brihard]

Were you out drinking with Guilbeault?

Now I’m picturing Ottawa Police coaxing a drunk Altair down from the roof of center block.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Is this the monent that the LPC is about to enter freefall?

CBC will never say it because they are too busy boot licking Carney but the signs are there.

I will remind you once again, Chrystia Freeland stepped down and that's when the writting was on the wall for Trudeau.

Steven Guilbault will leave parliament and then go full scorced earth on the LPC which will tank the LPC in Quebec. The entire left flank of the LPC will flock to the NDP and a few members floor cross to the greens or sit as independents bringing the LPC back to a minority.

My prediction? Carney popularity will plummet fast and he manufactures an election or loses a confidence vote.

Deeds not words.

The QC prediction assumes he carries a lot of political water there. I hear he doesn’t but we’ll see.

I don’t think one fringe type leaving = the downfall of Team Red at this point.

 

[YZT580]

The QC prediction assumes he carries a lot of political water there. I hear he doesn’t but we’ll see.

I don’t think one fringe type leaving = the downfall of Team Red at this point.

Quebec still appears adamant to prevent any carbon fuel related projects from being accepted in the province so perhaps he might have more influence than you think. Hopefully he doesn't but in La Belle Province, who knows>

 

[Haggis]

If Guilbeault really wanted to screw over Carney he could've crossed the floor. This resignation is pure theatrics of a spoiled activist who didn't get his way.

 

[dapaterson]

If Guilbeault really wanted to screw over Carney he could've crossed the floor. This resignation is pure theatrics of a spoiled activist who didn't get his way.

Crossed to where? Which party aligns would align with him?

 

[Haggis]

Crossed to where? Which party aligns would align with him?

Does it matter if his intent was to damage the LPC brand? Even if he were to sit as an independent, I suspect he would still support the LPC against the opposition.

 

[Navy_Pete]

He explained why he was stepping down. I don't think it's going to move the needle too much, not with the population currently being very supportive of various national projects and that includes oil and gas.

Guilbeault says Canada 'backsliding' on climate action as he resigns as MP​

Even as an MP and environment minister, plenty of the LPC faithful thought he was nuts, let alone the general population. I admire that he has convictions and is sticking by them I guess, even if I think he's a militant ideologue (with a questionable grasp on the real world) that is unable to understand that you need to compromise to get big things done in a democracy. 60% of 100% is always better than 100% of 0.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Some convictions cost real people real time and money. Some people can afford the friction, and some cannot, and for the latter it makes their lives difficult. Convictions are not necessarily admirable. All sorts of people have convictions. In Guilbeault's case, his convictions were burdening a lot of ordinary people, to not much useful purpose.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Some convictions cost real people real time and money. Some people can afford the friction, and some cannot, and for the latter it makes their lives difficult. Convictions are not necessarily admirable. All sorts of people have convictions. In Guilbeault's case, his convictions were burdening a lot of ordinary people, to not much useful purpose.

I think his convictions were stupid, it was just refreshing to see a politician stand by them. But he's a pretty big outlier, so his leaving is hardly a reflection on anything (and frankly take him quitting as an MP as a sign things are going in the right direction).

 

[suffolkowner]

Even as an MP and environment minister, plenty of the LPC faithful thought he was nuts, let alone the general population. I admire that he has convictions and is sticking by them I guess, even if I think he's a militant ideologue (with a questionable grasp on the real world) that is unable to understand that you need to compromise to get big things done in a democracy. 60% of 100% is always better than 100% of 0.

Is there description of his faults somewhere? Im curious how many things i would differ with him on