Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

Have a political system that has greater inclusion of all parties. FPTP has issues, but no matter the push by the electorate to have some form of improved representation, or the promises of parties to do so, it dies on the vine because in the end, it’s about power and influence.

We need a mechanism to hold politicians accountable, or fire them, that's better than "vote for someone else in 4 years".

 

[YZT580]

Its a sad state of affairs... We Canadians accept to little by way of performance and conduct from our Govs and Politicians.

but we didn't accept it so stop beating the public please. We elected a minority albeit a strong minority government. The largest elected group promptly went out and bribed a few opportunists or simply vulnerable individuals to achieve majority status. That is not the fault of the voting public but simply individual avarice.

 

[Jarnhamar]

but we didn't accept it so stop beating the public please. We elected a minority albeit a strong minority government. The largest elected group promptly went out and bribed a few opportunists or simply vulnerable individuals to achieve majority status. That is not the fault of the voting public but simply individual avarice.

4 time CPC Marilyn Gladu said funding to her district was cut and the Liberals said if she crosses the floor she will get the funding back.

Canadians basically having their shop window broken then buying protection from people holding rocks.

 

[Halifax Tar]

but we didn't accept it so stop beating the public please. We elected a minority albeit a strong minority government. The largest elected group promptly went out and bribed a few opportunists or simply vulnerable individuals to achieve majority status. That is not the fault of the voting public but simply individual avarice.

Canadians elected this Gov and seem to happy with their conduct, purchase of a majority included.

Yes, Canadians get the Gov the deserve.

Neither, confirmation of what Jarnhammer notes below. Are we to believe that any party that gets into a majority position *will actually walk-walk the talk-talk of transparency?

Canadian's should expect better. And one shouldn't use 11 years old articles to justify or defect from present poor performance.

 

[Good2Golf]

Canadian's should expect better.

Expect and partake in the political system to support better outcomes.

And shouldn't use 11 years old articles to justify or defect from present poor performance.

Neither justification, nor deflection. Juxtaposition is valid, particularly when someone today is critiquing others for the same behaviour that they were a part of 11 and even more years ago.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Expect and partake in the political system to support better outcomes.

Agreed. I do.

Neither justification, nor deflection. Juxtaposition is valid, particularly when someone today is critiquing others for the same behaviour that they were a part of 11 and even more years ago.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Good2Golf]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I’ve been sleeping fine under Mulroney, Campbell, Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau and Carney, thanks, even though all those PMs were at one time or another accused of eschewing transparency during their governing. I’ve done what I’ve needed to do to both participate positively in Canada’s political system and to ensure my own household is in order. Your attempt to imply that I am deluded or deliberately and willfully ignorant of some set of facts isn’t going to cause my sleep to be any less restful, nor is it going to bless me with some new found enlightenment that the sooner Canadians dump Carney and get things back on track with Poilievre, the better we’ll all be.

 

[Altair]

Expect and partake in the political system to support better outcomes.



Neither justification, nor deflection. Juxtaposition is valid, particularly when someone today is critiquing others for the same behaviour that they were a part of 11 and even more years ago.

We don't even need to go back 11 years.

Provinces are doing this on the daily as well. Conservative Premiers, Liberal Premiers, CAQ Premier, NDP Premier, they all do it.

The difference is for 6 years we had non stop minorities at the federal level so people just got accustomed to the transparency. It was not and never was the norm for the ruling party to help the opposition to defeat the ruling party. Harper didn't do it when he had a majority, Trudeau didn't when he has a majority, it was just because Trudeau and by extension Carney didn't have a majority that this was happening.

The current situation is far more the norm.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I’ve been sleeping fine under Mulroney, Campbell, Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau and Carney, thanks, even though all those PMs were at one time or another accused of eschewing transparency during their governing. I’ve done what I’ve needed to do to both participate positively in Canada’s political system and to ensure my own household is in order. Your attempt to imply that I am deluded or deliberately and willfully ignorant of some set of facts isn’t going to cause my sleep to be any less restful, nor is it going to bless me with some new found enlightenment that the sooner Canadians dump Carney and get things back on track with Poilievre, the better we’ll all be.

Not my attempt all. IMHO you were just playing the whataboutism game.

Sleep well brother. Sleep health is important.

 

[Good2Golf]

Not my attempt all. IMHO you were just playing the whataboutism game.

Sleep well brother. Sleep health is important.

Sleep health and following the words of the Serenity Proverb…

 

[Jarnhamar]

Conservatives call for Liberals to block 'candy sentences' for immigrants convicted of crimes​

Conservatives call for Liberals to block 'candy sentences' for immigrants convicted of crimes

Rempel Garner wants to amend the Criminal Code to stop "candy sentences" she says allow immigrants who commit crimes to avoid deportation.

nationalpost.com

Conservatives can make noise about this but really that's all it is. Noise.


Meanwhile, an alleged classified report from the CBSA is saying crimes by Indian student permit holders increased 8,800% between 2016 and 2024.

India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes​

India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes | Indo-Canadian Voice

A classified report by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reveals that crimes by Indian student permit holders increased a whopping 8,800 per cent between 2016 and 2024. It ranked India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes. Global BC's Stewart Bell in a report...

voiceonline.com

-2019–2023: approximately 4,000 Indian citizens who entered Canada on study permits were charged with 17,929 offences.
-Of those charges, approximately 4,920 were categorized as serious or organized-crime-related.
-97% of those serious/organized-crime-related charges were violent.
2024: approximately 2,418 Indian citizens on study visas were charged with more than 13,040 offences.



The Criminal Code should be amended to prevent immigration status from being a consideration during sentencing.

 

[MilEME09]

Conservatives call for Liberals to block 'candy sentences' for immigrants convicted of crimes​

Conservatives call for Liberals to block 'candy sentences' for immigrants convicted of crimes

Rempel Garner wants to amend the Criminal Code to stop "candy sentences" she says allow immigrants who commit crimes to avoid deportation.

nationalpost.com

Conservatives can make noise about this but really that's all it is. Noise.


Meanwhile, an alleged classified report from the CBSA is saying crimes by Indian student permit holders increased 8,800% between 2016 and 2024.

India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes​

India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes | Indo-Canadian Voice

A classified report by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reveals that crimes by Indian student permit holders increased a whopping 8,800 per cent between 2016 and 2024. It ranked India the “top source” country of foreign students charged with crimes. Global BC's Stewart Bell in a report...

voiceonline.com

-2019–2023: approximately 4,000 Indian citizens who entered Canada on study permits were charged with 17,929 offences.
-Of those charges, approximately 4,920 were categorized as serious or organized-crime-related.
-97% of those serious/organized-crime-related charges were violent.
2024: approximately 2,418 Indian citizens on study visas were charged with more than 13,040 offences.



The Criminal Code should be amended to prevent immigration status from being a consideration during sentencing.

Wasn't there a leaked CSIS report that said Indian gangs were exploiting the foreign student program to get people into canada? That alone i think should cause a temporary halt to all new indian student visas until safe guards can be put in place.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Looks like it was the CBSA.

EXCLUSIVE: Classified report reveals how India’s Bishnoi gang uses Canada’s student visa program | Globalnews.ca

The CBSA intelligence report suggests that a controversial government foreign student program opened the door to India’s most notorious crime group.

globalnews.ca