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Hoe do you know they haven't been trying to this whole time?
Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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With turnout under 1/3 in the two Ontario voters, and just over 1/2 in Quebec, it may be imprudent to read too much into vote distribution.
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The drop seems to be almost entirely in the LPC and Conservative votes, with each dropping 30k voters, but still enough for a very easy LPC win in Terrebonne. Still, losing 75% of your votes in one riding doesn't seem great, as a lot may have just been protest votes.
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The concern is national polls show the CPC is underwater in Quebec.
Terrebonne sees CPC vote go from 18 percent to 3 percent.
Small sample size, but for any CPC MPs from that province who have been uneasy must have alarm bells going off now.
Terrebonne sees CPC vote go from 18 percent to 3 percent.
Small sample size, but for any CPC MPs from that province who have been uneasy must have alarm bells going off now.
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By elections generally have lower turn out, that saidnits still pretty low
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Or, CPC voters knew their person wasn't going to win, so didn't bother showing up...
Why waste your time when it's a contest between two parties you dont care about, and control of parliment isn't at stake?
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I mean, maybe.
But in the 2024 by election in LaSalle—Émard—Verdun the CPC vote came out, they were never going to win.
Now 2024 the CPC was flying high, so maybe their supporters were more motivated. If that's the case, then maybe the alarm bells is how demotivated conservative supporters in Quebec are in 2026.
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Win for the opposition
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
www.ctvnews.ca
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
The federal government is set to temporarily suspend the federal fuel excise tax on gas and diesel starting next week.
www.ctvnews.ca
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Win for the opposition
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
The federal government is set to temporarily suspend the federal fuel excise tax on gas and diesel starting next week.
Excellent news.
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If it's a flat 10 cents a liter on gasoline, where was the CPC getting 25 cents from? Were they talking about a GST cut as well (and wouldn't that do nothing in provinces with HST unless the provinces have carve outs as well)?Win for the opposition
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
Carney government to temporarily suspend federal gas tax starting next week
The federal government is set to temporarily suspend the federal fuel excise tax on gas and diesel starting next week.
MilEME09
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They were adding gst and the new clean fuel regulations (which is dubious as the number isnt exact, amd likely only 4c a liter by 2030) so they were adding everything together to get 25c. Dont worry though the deficit will be higher from this as well
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Thanks, I saw that eventually when I clicked through to an old story, where they claimed it would save $1200 a year. I'm not sure what standard family is buying enough gas to save $1200/year, so they must have been doing some (fairly aggressive) estimates on drops to things like food etc from reduced transport costs from diesel being reduced.
I can't remember that every happening when fuel prices drop, but if I was pushing out a sound bite, I'd probably jam a lot of optimistic assumptions in there as well, knowing almost no one will ever verify it.
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he also wanted it cancelled for the rest of the year which would of cost federal coffers over $18 billion, Im not sure on the math of just doing it until September. Good for consumers, a win for the opposition, who will then use the increased deficit this causes to hammer the gov in the next economic update. Carney is going to need some serious economic growth going into and through the summer to whether the storm.
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In that election, the entire government was changing, and it was a general election for all Canadians. People show up at those because "the are supposed to", but by elections normally have a lower turnout, particularly for the parties that aren't going to win.
Realistically, with the LPC now holding a majority, how the CPC are polling means essentially nothing. They now have 4 years to either be effective or face the wrath of the electorate after being in power for 15 years.
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I wonder if PP moving his riding from the Ottawa area out to Alberta has any impact on these numbers.
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LOL
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I wouldn't imagine. Quebec is culturally insular so what happens in Ontario doesn't really factor in for the majority of Quebec.
And for all intents and purposes, it's like PP never left Ottawa. He's still in Stornoway, he never left.
Quebec is all in on the Liberal brand right now. Even the Quebec Liberal party is looking like it might win the provincial election, after being exiled to the political wilderness that is Montreal for the past 8 years.
But the LPC rising doesn't explain the CPC collapsing. Different phenomenons
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Must everything be viewed through a falsely zero-sum lens?
I don't care if it is good or bad for the opposition. I don't' care if it is good politics. I only care if this is good policy.
On that, my feeling are mixed, as the offset will of course have to be borrowed, but that will balanced against the stimulus (or cauterisation) of the economy. Having said that, the average voter will be unlikely to see the nuance, and only see the reduction on prices at the pump, so I guess it is good politics.
On the whole, I see this as a positive temporary policy step that will be politically popular.
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