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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 09:38:38 »
What unit worked there?

I would suspect "A" Company of the Lanark and Renfrew Scottish Regiment; they were shifted from Renfrew to Pembroke in 1970 according to The Canadian Militia.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 10:41:49 »
I wanted to put in a picture of the first armoury I paraded at when I joined the 7th Toronto Regiment back in 1965. They had just moved everyone out of the old University Avenue Armouries and put us into a temporary armoury at 87 Richmond Street East until the Moss Park Armouries were built.

Unfortunately its a car park lot now  :'(

Do you recall the old Falaise Armoury down on Queen's Quay? I think there was an RCA Medium Regt there until very early 70's.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 20:31:33 »
Do you recall the old Falaise Armoury down on Queen's Quay? I think there was an RCA Medium Regt there until very early 70's.

I never paraded there but a number of my fellow gunners had.

The 7th Toronto was an amalgamation of the several units. 29th Fd Regt had been at University Ave Armouries and had moved into Richmond sharing space with the Queen's Own Rifles. 42nd Medium had moved into Falaise where it shared the Armouries with 1st Locating Regt.

Just before I joined in 1965 29th was redesignated 7th Toronto while at the same time 42nd Med and 1 Loc went onto the Sup Order of Battle and their people were merged in with us. I was sent down to Falaise once or twice on a work party to move some gear.

The whole lot of us (as well as the QOR, 48th Highlanders and a Service Bn) moved into Moss Park Armouries when it opened in 1966.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2013, 07:24:48 »
What unit worked there?

Originally the militia air-defense artillery unit based in Pembroke, which later became the Lanark and Renfrew Scottish. (I might have that lineage wrong...)
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2013, 09:50:06 »
Originally the militia air-defense artillery unit based in Pembroke, which later became the Lanark and Renfrew Scottish. (I might have that lineage wrong...)

L&R Scots were converted to AD in 1992 - I recall an eager young officer cadet from that unit in Gagetown, returning after a medical RTU the prior summer, being unceremoniously kicked out of the shacks by DS at the Infantry School when the message came in and having to haul all his kit over to the artillery school.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2013, 10:16:29 »
Here is a bit more, from Wiki:

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On 1 April 1946 the regiment was converted to artillery and redesignated '59th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment (Lanark and Renfrew Scottish), RCA'.8 On 1 December 1959 the regiment was converted to infantry and redesignated 'The Lanark and Renfrew Scottish Regiment'.9 On 10 November 1992 the regiment was converted to artillery and redesignated '1st Air Defence Regiment (Lanark and Renfrew Scottish), RCA'.10

The current Regtl 2IC (who was the RegF CO when it was most recently an AD unit) told me that there were once marks in the drill floor where the outrigger feet of the 40mm Bofors guns rested on it.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2013, 10:24:13 »
In Pembroke?  I doubt the floor of that Armoury would take the weight of even a 40 mm Bofors.  It is a wooden floored armoury over a crawl space basement...I may have been in that Armoury- once or twice.  ;)

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2013, 11:15:28 »
Hmmm. I will check and verify. ???
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2013, 17:33:18 »
Olds, Alberta has a former armoury which housed A Sqn, KO Calg R back in the day.  It's still in use as a recreation center with an Air Cadet Squadron parading there.


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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2013, 19:43:51 »
Renfrew Armouries was home to the L&R Scots, not sure which company, as they had units in Carleton Place, Renfrew, Perth, and Pembroke.
Now just a RCA unit in Pembroke.
As for the floor, they  do park a 105MM gun on the floor for training and there is an Anti-aircraft gun of some sort parked on the floor.
I heard they had to do some re engineering of the floor to support the added weight of the guns.


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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2013, 23:31:28 »
The Dundas Armouries  is nowhere Recreation Center.It use to be the home of the  102LAA RCA later 11th Field Btty. The Sea Air Cadets still use it.

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2013, 23:34:36 »
The Niagara Falls armouries on Victoria Ave. is now the Niagara Falls Mïlitary Museum.It at one time housed the 10thBtty of the 56thFR RCA.

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2013, 10:55:15 »
There is a sub-unit size armoury in Durham ON (S of Owen Sound). Does anybody know what unit was in there?
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2013, 11:19:58 »
Some evolution of this company, which is part of the G&SF heritage:

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/ol-lo/vol-tom-3/par2/gsf-eng.asp

'No. 4 Company (Volunteer Militia Company of Infantry at Durham,6 February 1863)

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2013, 14:04:07 »
Adding onto Rhlidrummer's comment here is a link to the old Lincoln and Welland Regiment's armoury in Niagara Falls.

Link: http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM15HE_Niagara_Falls_Armoury_D_Coy_of_The_Lincoln_welland_Regt

Presumably it hosted D-Company in the 70's and 80's as I remember talking to a former member about this location and his time spent there. Sadly it is closing down soon I have heard. :(

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2013, 21:05:51 »
The Niagara Falls armouries on Victoria Ave. is now the Niagara Falls Mïlitary Museum.It at one time housed the 10thBtty of the 56thFR RCA.

And D Company of the Lincoln and Welland Regiment.  As soon as the armoury was declared surplus, D Company was stood down and C Company stood up in Welland.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2013, 09:26:47 »
In Pembroke?  I doubt the floor of that Armoury would take the weight of even a 40 mm Bofors.  It is a wooden floored armoury over a crawl space basement...I may have been in that Armoury- once or twice.  ;)

I was wrong: the Regtl 2iC advises me that it was in the former armoury in Perth, which is now a church.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2013, 21:33:40 »
Not quite fitting into the thread theme but it looks like Halifax is getting a new armoury to be built in Willow Park.

The current Halifax Armouries on the Halifax Commons will continue to be used due to a lack of training space in Halifax.

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,111670.msg1248462/topicseen.html#new

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2013, 08:28:33 »
Not quite fitting into the thread theme but it looks like Halifax is getting a new armoury to be built in Willow Park.

The current Halifax Armouries on the Halifax Commons will continue to be used due to a lack of training space in Halifax.

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,111670.msg1248462/topicseen.html#new

This is a problem which existed at least twenty years ago and is going to get much, much worse as armouries (especially multi-unit armouries) reach the end of their life spans, or simply no loner are physically capable of providing the needed space and facilities without hugely expensive renovations.

As an example, when I was in LFCA HQ in 98-2000, we estimated that at the then-current rate of recapitalization funding, it would take over 100 years to replace all our armouries. I'm pretty sure other LFA's faced very similar situations. Some of these old buildings simply won't be able to stay standing that long.
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2013, 21:52:06 »
I was married in the 'Gunnery Room' of the London Delta (the ball room located on the outside wall beside Waterloo St) and IIRC there was a display case showing some photos of the Armoury back in its heyday, so there are a few reminders. When you see the roof line in the big atrium they have outside the ballrooms, there's no mistaking the similarity to the interior roofline of the old Chatham armoury (IMO).

Speaking of which, being former E&K, I spent time in the old Chatham armoury before the new 'public school' looking one was built in the south side of the city next to the ethanol plant. The urban legend amongst the ranks was that only CF members were allowed in the old one at the time because the building was condemned and civilian pers were not allowed to set foot inside due to reasons of liability. Likely grossly false, but it was a *very* "well used" armoury, with an antique wood floor (and possessed of more character than I think it's replacement could accumulate in three centuries of service).

I missed feeling the history of the old Windsor armouries when coming in a Tuesday night after the move to Tilston, but having served in both as well, the set up at Tilston is much roomier and functional for a motorized present rather than a horse drawn past. The "issue" surrounding the ranges notwithstanding, I thought Tilston much more than just adequate  (from a CPL's POV).

I can't help but feel I am 'losing' another bit of personally connected geographical military history soon since it seems that everything except 'A' Block, the CBG HQ, Beaver Hall, the MIR, and the 'MSA' building on Wolseley is going to feel the wrecking ball in the near future for what I think to be short sighted motivations. We went from almost getting a whole floor in Glacis Building to being constrained to a classroom and single office in the MIR (though the computers there do actually work, so bonus for the new subbie). Oh well, perhaps it will help in some larger sense to build an updated cubicle farm on the Nortel Campus. Hmmm, now to find the sarcasm font...
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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2014, 04:05:00 »
I don't have a picture but the YWCA in Peterborough sure looks like it could have been an Armoury at one time.

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2014, 13:33:25 »
Listowel Armoury, now used by the Listowel Agricultural Society

Chatham Armoury, now occupied by RBC Dominion Securities and Four Diamond Catering

Watford Armoury (Drill Hall), now a fire hall.

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2014, 14:17:57 »
A lot of these former armouries can be found in link below (the example in the search is for the former one in Niagara falls)
www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=9870&pid=0

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2014, 14:23:42 »
Hillside Armoury in Westmount has been vacated by 34 CER, after ~45 years of being told that the unit's departure was imminent.  It's likely the building will be demolished, as there are leaks, mould and structural deficiencies.

There's an article about 1/3 of the way down this page discussing it: http://aroundwestmount.com/events-past-2-3/

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Re: FORMER ARMOURIES
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2014, 10:57:05 »
Fond memories of mess dinners at that armoury. Sad to see it go instead of being fixed up.