Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle - RG-31, LAV Coyote, and (partial) G-Wagon Replacement

[FJAG]

The three or four TLAVs in 1 RCHA can't make it out of the parking lot but are still on the docket.

M577s?

 

[Seyek]

Oh boy, theres a team working on a plan to upgun the TAPVs...hilarity will ensue.

Don't worry, I got you. You can put them in the CARB as a tank trainer. We can get all the MGS turrets and ammo for cheap. Tell the working group I'll take $10 million for my consulting fee.

 

[McG]

Oh boy, theres a team working on a plan to upgun the TAPVs...hilarity will ensue.

What organization does this “team” belong to?

I read something recently - can't recall where - that TLAVs are down to being counted by the handful.

Aside from the handful in-service, DND pays DEW Engineering to keep a quantity of these in preservation for the possibility that we develop a need/want to put some back on service.

 

[MilEME09]

I heard the RCA had a wild idea to make it a MLRS

 

[FJAG]

I heard the RCA had a wild idea to make it a MLRS

I've never heard anything like that. It's already a very high vehicle. Can't see how you would add an MLRS module onto it without having it tip over in a strong breeze.

It does have enough capacity to make a decent OPV or STA platform with the right add on stations, but that makes them stand out and be priority targets within a LAV company. (There's a lot of benefit in looking like all the stuff around you when you are special )

 

[MilEME09]

I've never heard anything like that. It's already a very high vehicle. Can't see how you would add an MLRS module onto it without having it tip over in a strong breeze.

It does have enough capacity to make a decent OPV or STA platform with the right add on stations, but that makes them stand out and be priority targets within a LAV company. (There's a lot of benefit in looking like all the stuff around you when you are special )

Probably good reason I only saw it in a power point once.

Could probably put a recover winch in the emergency escape hatch at the back, then add a couple spades, and a tool boxes for a MRV

 

[markppcli]

M577s?

Queen Marrys but converted to tlav as I understand it.

 

[FJAG]

Queen Marrys but converted to tlav as I understand it.

Yeah. Thought so.

Back in 2004 when the M109s were shitcanned and we were left with nothing but LG1s and C3s, the artillery's full fleet of tracked vehicles (M577s, M113s, M548s and M578s) were also withdrawn. That of course left the entire branch without any command post vehicles, ammo limbers or even gun and detachment tractors for many years. Everything was ad hoc'd into absurdity.

Things eventually stabilized (a bit) at least for Afghanistan where the M577s and M113 (TLAV versions) came back as CP vehicles, STA det vehicles, and even the guns' detachment vehicles to haul the crew around and provide local security. Regiments in Canada were poorly equipped for well over a decade having only a few of the vehicles needed for operations and frequently nowhere near enough for training.

I don't want to have the arty wear a hair shirt here - nobody was well equipped over the last two decades - but it's been ridiculous. It's unsurprising that a small number of tracked M577s are VOR with a logistics and maintenance system now geared heavily to fleets of wheeled vehicles.

 

[markppcli]

Yeah. Thought so.

Back in 2004 when the M109s were shitcanned and we were left with nothing but LG1s and C3s, the artillery's full fleet of tracked vehicles (M577s, M113s, M548s and M578s) were also withdrawn. That of course left the entire branch without any command post vehicles, ammo limbers or even gun and detachment tractors for many years. Everything was ad hoc'd into absurdity.

Things eventually stabilized (a bit) at least for Afghanistan where the M577s and M113 (TLAV versions) came back as CP vehicles, STA det vehicles, and even the guns' detachment vehicles to haul the crew around and provide local security. Regiments in Canada were poorly equipped for well over a decade having only a few of the vehicles needed for operations and frequently nowhere near enough for training.

I don't want to have the arty wear a hair shirt here - nobody was well equipped over the last two decades - but it's been ridiculous. It's unsurprising that a small number of tracked M577s are VOR with a logistics and maintenance system now geared heavily to fleets of wheeled vehicles.

At least their getting a lions share of ACSV to fill troop carrier and CP roles. TAPVs for SUAS and TSMs.

 

[Infanteer]

I don't want to have the arty wear a hair shirt here - nobody was well equipped over the last two decades - but it's been ridiculous.

As I am engaged in exercises to re-equip and re-organize, I constantly marvel at how poorly equipped we've been for my entire career. Amateur hour.